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Re: “A darker Knight


"Actually, a minute with Google turns up this interview with Christopher Nolan in Newsweek, in which he acknowledges having an ethical agenda that goes a bit deeper than "plain ol' good vs. evil."

...And if you take more than a minutes` cursory look at the Newsweek interview, you see that it is THE INTERVIEWER who mentions and presses for an Iraq connection, NOT Christopher Nolan.

" The film implies that Gotham's latest wave of psychos exist partly because of Batman, not in spite of him. His presence has unintended consequences in the same way that the U.S. presence in Iraq has consequences...... ...So it's not a stretch to look at Gotham and see shades of Baghdad?

While the closest that Nolan comes is:


Well, where I suppose I would see a parallel is the threat of chaos, which is something we very much deal with in this film. And in today's world, Baghdad is a powerful illustration of that. It's frightening to imagine in one of our own cities.

...Calling that "an ethical agenda" is one thing; saying that Nolan is using his film as an indictment of "The Bush Doctrine" is yet another. Point Of Fact; it is YOUR assumption, not anything that Christopher Nolan says.

I stand by my comment. You seem to have read a hell of a lot of political posturing into that movie, and nothing that Chris Nolan said in that interview backs you up. If anything, you have managed to simply 'ape' the Newsweek interviewer by attempting to inject YOUR OWN agenda onto Nolan`s film.

Make no mistake, I am no fan of Bushco (and am looking forward to the day Bush leaves office and a monumental Party for the event).... But you would have better served the readers by addressing more aspects of THE FILM rather than using the review as yet another soapbox to preach about government policy from.

Posted by PALADIN on 07/21/2008 at 9:08 PM

Re: “A darker Knight

RE: "Nowadays, you can throw a dart at a newspaper movie listing and hit a film with some post-Sept. 11 import. But, while 2005's Batman Begins was director Christopher Nolan's indictment of society's fear of terrorism, its sequel is a nuanced, occasionally convoluted examination of the consequences of the Bush Doctrine' ...Bloody Hell...Does EVERYTHING just HAVE TO have a political message with you people ?? I defy you to find one comment by anyone connected with this film that will back up your ludicrous assumption of a political message in "Dark Knight" (or one in "Batman Begins" for that matter). If there is any undercurrent 'message' present in "Dark Knight", it is a psychological work-up relating to behavioral models such as Obsession, Transferrance and Denial. I could also point out a generous dash of plain ol`' Good Vs Evil', but that seems too simple for The Independent to perceive these days, when anything and everything on film MUST have a political agenda behind it...somewhere. I`ve been reading The Independent for the majority of it`s existence...But sometimes all the unrelenting, virulent, political rhetoric just becomes so much ranting and more than a bit tiresome. You people seem hell-bent to look for bones in boxes of Animal Crackers. can`t you just RELAX and absorb a film without looking for Bush, Irag, or 9-11 messages in the narrative ? I go to the movies to GET AWAY from The Bushco reality ( that`s why it`s called ESCAPISM, Sparky !)..yet you seem to delight in looking for "The Bush Doctrine" EVERYWHERE. I feel sorry for you....I really do.

Posted by PALADIN on 07/21/2008 at 4:05 PM

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