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Re: “Form a sun bloc at solar energy discussion

ROBOTICALLY GROW SOLAR `~'

Very large solar capacity will have to be mass produced by robotic assembly lines HERE in this country to achieve exponential growth across the deserts (and suitable rooftops too) such as the paving machine has done for roads in the last century. Robotics are also needed to mass produce utility scale LiFePO4 batteries (or better) too.

If you like the idea of solar, it is YOUR DUTY as citizen of your country, to encourage and promote to the best of your ability, the urgent need to promote robotic infrastructure and 24/7 solar power. If you don't like the idea of solar, chances are, it is because the prices have been kept too high for various different political reasons.

ONLY ROBOTICS can prevent solar energy collection and storage from being priced out of market forever.

Robotic assembly would create millions of jobs needed for installations (across the nations) to "do any good".

Please copy and paste this or print and distribute . . .

Thanks for reading,
Another exponential solar enthusiast

P.S.
Many people fear that it is too late for large countries to do anything about their looming energy crisis because of the SERIOUS amount of new capacity needed just to account for growth (and many times that for CO2 offsetting). It's like having to build a new nuclear power plant EVERY DAY for 40 years! So, most would say, "how much harder would it be to 'go solar and wind' since such renewables account for only a tiny fraction of all other sources of electricity". Indeed, if the whole world was employed to make solar panels, still, only a limited amount of clean energy collection (at drastically high prices) would be available.

Ther is a better way!

Before explaining THE best possible solution, we need to stay within a realizable time table. How much time do we still have? Many, infact, a very large fraction of the world's populations, believe that (the obvious) excess CO2 is "not a problem", thus, it is safe to say that GW hasn't changed the world in any particular noticable drastic ways... at least not yet. The icecaps are melting... However, such is explained as being possible without humanity's interuption (and has happened before in ages past). The "planet" can deal with much more severe change than what we have imposed upon it, seriously! Even if humanity continues to pump out excess CO2 past any "tipping point", the planet will survive by converting pristine nature into anoxic oceans and methane air which sequesters carbon for yet another possible fossil fuel cycle millions of years into the future! Of course we (and most other species) would die in the meantime.

This is why it is our duty to do everything possible to prevent this horrible climate change which is taking place on a geologic blink of time. And the only way to do that is by use of unimaginable amounts of clean energy. Energy needed to lower the albedo of Earth (reflectivity), to slow melting and methane release. Energy needed to grow food and pump water for ever more people who should also have a chance at living with Western amenities. And finally, energy needed to build more (clean) power plant capacity and to literally suck the excess CO2 out of the air (when technologically feasable in about 40 years). Mere human timescales reveal the nature of our fossil fueled folly, shouldn't we still have time to "fix" the problems?

We must start the fix now!

We have a good chance of succeeding because most people already know that we have to do something, they also know that trivial little "saving the plastic baggies" is NOT good enough. They know that coal is bad. What they don't know is how to fundamentally FIX the problem... UNTIL NOW!

This is how it's done...

1, Awareness, such as "yes for exponential solar!". This (and better) explanations must be posted "everywhere".

2, Laws need to be created that MANDATES RESEARCH on robotic mass manufacturing techniques specifically for bringing down the costs of solar PV and utility scale batteries by at least an order of magnitude. (Laws may need to be created to protect workers in existing fields from robotic competitors).

3, Planetwide feed in tariffs (only in all sunny areas) of only a few percent above normal fossil fuel prices needs to be set (in the future) as a GUARANTEE (for robotic PV assembly line developers) that the billions of dollars of research and development will create profits. This is NOT a Germany style feed in tariff which paid 4 or 5 times "normal" for relatively small amounts of solar electrical generation (which did help in developing solar automation to a certain degree). A few percent above normal "today" prices is definately, a good insurance policy against fossil fueled prices of tomorrow! 4 or 5 times is obviously not affordable and thus not doable in the marketplace. To meet these stringent PV cost objectives will definately need the development of large robotic assembly plants!

4, The marketplace will then be ready to install solar, first, by the megawatts, per year, then by the gigawatts, per year, then by the terawatts, per year. This exactly mirrors a "viral" approach to solving a problem.

Refering back to the "nuke plant every day" scenario, let's hope that humanity would be able to build just 33% more capacity (way less than double) every year. It would be...

One plant for the first year,
1.33, the second,
17.3, the tenth year,
299 the twentieth year,
5,194 the 30th year, and
90,000 the fortieth year, which is way more than the 15,000 needed. Since it takes about twenty square miles of flat, dry and sunny space to generate a gigawatt 24/7 (including the almost 4 times PV field extra needed for storage), still, only about 1/10th of Earths deserts would be needed to power ALL the world at an American standard (using electricity for most everything including mobility which is about 3 times more efficient than the energy wasting coal steam generators and internal combustion engines we use today).

Simply replace (1) nuke plants for (1) gigawatts in this example to clearly see that humanity does indeed have the option (and responsibility)...

TO ROBOTICALLY GROW SOLAR!

Posted by fireofenergy on 06/06/2010 at 2:26 PM

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