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Re: “Prodigal Farm is growing, along with its humanely raised herd

"Ethics and humaneness have different meanings to different people."


this kind of false, self serving thinking allows people to exploit, harm and kill others for their own personal gratification. owning, exploiting and abusing people of other races was considered ethical by the white slave owners who were greatly profiting from it-the victims however had quite a different view on the subject.

when considering acts of violence and injustice, it is in no way fair, logical or consistent to ignore the victims point of view. if you would not like something done to you, it is NEVER ethical or humane to do it to others.

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Posted by markgil on 03/27/2014 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Prodigal Farm is growing, along with its humanely raised herd

"I've yet to convert anyone to vegetarianism or veganism by scolding, being histrionic or putting someone on a guilt trip. It's the quickest way to marginalize veganism."


would you say the same thing about people who speak out against the violence and exploitation done to humans? is condemning and punishing people who oppress, harm and kill humans "putting someone on a guilt trip"? the problem is that veganism is about MUCH more than just a dietary choice-it is about non-violence, social justice and treating all others the way you yourself wish to be treated. since no one wishes to be commodified, exploited and used as a means to some one else's selfish ends, it is a moral imperative not to force this on helpless others and non-human animals count as others.

the ironic thing about your statement is that the one's being marginalized are the goats themselves who are treated as economic units instead of sentient individuals with their own purposes, needs and desires.

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Posted by markgil on 03/27/2014 at 12:26 PM

Re: “Prodigal Farm is growing, along with its humanely raised herd

β€œIt is a healthy, natural reaction for someone who witnesses the brutalities inflicted upon nonhuman animals in the agriculture industry for the first time, to ask, "how can we stop this from happening?”. The simple truth is that there remains only one answer, only one way to stop it from happening. We must end the consumption of animal-based products. Until then, nonhuman animals will always be placed in "livestock" conditions, they will always be exploited, they will always be abused and they will always be slaughtered. You cannot teach someone that a life-form has any real value when it is considered acceptable to enslave, kill and eat said being. Whilst humanity views nonhuman animals as resources, mere commodities, they will always be victims of our barbarity. There is no "humane" way to treat a slave and there certainly is no "humane" procedure to take a life.”

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Posted by markgil on 03/27/2014 at 11:07 AM

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