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Re: “Conceal-carry permit holders can now bring guns into restaurants and bars. What could go wrong?

Glad to see the pro-gun commentors have also shared the stance of "drinking while concealing " ..isn't the best idea. Unsure of the language of the new law, but hopefully this will remain illegal. Also hope some of the anti-gun crowd has considered who the audience of CCW permit holders truly is.. (They're not lunatic gun-nuts..they're just normal people who want to defend themselves, and HOPEFULLY never have to make such a decision, or take such a shot, but prepare to do so to save their own, or another's life in imminent danger)

The CCW holder is most likely to be the DD/ "leave me out of this", as they're required to disclose to police officers at every interaction they have with them.. a full disclosure identifying they're concealing a firearm, where it is located, as well as a current (and matching) permit/license. Need to be wide awake and ready to give that speech at any given time.. Most times, people just want to avoid ever having to go through all that trouble, as the CCW crowd generally never wants to have to go through all the hoops anyway.

What's weird is, gun ammo has disappeared. Cant find a store that stocks it. Everything's being bought up. In my local area of Southern Pines..(it's looking more like Fayetteville, and it's disgusting.) Gun violence is escalating to a point we have never. Never. seen before. It's scary. The solution? Get guns out of the hands of criminals. But while you can't stop that from happening, because criminals..are criminals.. Either I can stay inside and never leave my house after dark, or I can conceal and just be aware of my current situation and make wise decisions. I can't guarantee that I will/won't encounter some of this gun violence first hand (while on my normal every day route, not looking for it by any means), all I can guarantee is that I would give myself chance a second to fight for my life (should the situation unfortunately present itself). I wish the world was different here. Most often CCW holders acquire their permits for a reason. They're victims, or they're friends of victims,and refuse to be the next victim. That's all.

In the end, what both crowds want to do is feel safe when they're out eating dinner. The disagreement just comes from the disagreement in what makes them feel safe while they're out. Is safe...knowing full well no bullet will ever fly within a 100yd circle of you if someone tries robbing the establishment (or similar)? Is safe.. not having to trust strangers with judgment of deadly force? Or is safe... knowing that you will not be mugged and killed in an alley without a chance to fight back? In the end, neither of us want to deal with any trouble. Or put up with any (for lack of a better word.. ) "Mess", or "bull" by any shady criminals.. Sorry for the novel guys..have a good day..

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Posted by Jeff Byrd on 10/29/2013 at 12:35 AM

Re: “Conceal-carry permit holders can now bring guns into restaurants and bars. What could go wrong?

"Snookaydcc", youre breaking the law with full intent to do so, and could lose your permit for doing such.

I'm a Democrat, I have my permit. I went through the weekend course, it wasnt hard hard, but it was thorough. If you're carrying, you can not have ONE-SIP of alcohol. If you're carrying, you can not step foot inside any establishment that prohibits firearms. (Criminals probably will, and theyll meet justice)
If you store your weapon inside your car, not on your person, you also may not have one sip. These are the laws, have you broken them? Get caught doing so means loss of permit and possibility of jail-time.

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Posted by Jeff Byrd on 10/23/2013 at 4:54 PM

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