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Re: “What About the Pigs?

Thank you Ellen and Jessica for speaking up for those with no voice. I've been vegan for over 3 years now, purely for the animals, not for me, not for my health, though the benefits are obviously there. It's not about me, it's about no longer participating in the slaughter and torture of beings who are probably as smart and sentient as my cats who I love. While there are many victims in factory farming, please don't forget the very ones who pay with their lives by the thousands every day.

Posted by Steve Griffin on 07/26/2017 at 9:05 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Great article! Why don't we care more about pigs? What makes them so different from other animals? It's sort of like the old adage, if a tree falls in a forest, does it make a sound. With pigs, if the consumer is unaware of the immense suffering they endure at a slaughterhouse, is it all OK?

Posted by Daniel Turbert on 07/26/2017 at 8:45 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Many thanks to Ellen, Jessica, the folks who commented so eloquently above, and those who work to document and describe the conditions endured by pigs and other animals for the sake of a flavor. Thank you to my beloved Indy for sharing this information, albeit a bit late, for the consideration of your readers.

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Posted by sandralee on 07/26/2017 at 8:31 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

I thank you Ellen for speaking out for the forgotten ones, the non human animals that are mutilated from the moment they enter this world. The beings that spend the rest of their lives in confinement enduring an existence where everything natural to them is denied. I've looked into their eyes inside those trucks, begging for mercy, a drink of water and some kind of empathy and mercy. Each of their faces is different. They are individuals. For those that look at their plates and see bacon, ham, or BBQ, I ask you to consider Ellen's plea to see them. We have become a nation that no longer embraces empathy, compassion and mercy. Those who ask us to feel for these beings are often mocked for caring. I wonder, when did we stop being merciful? When did we begin to put our ethics and compassion aside for a moment of palate pleasure? We will look back at history and we will ask, "how could humans have been so barbaric?". Proud to know you Ellen and proud to call you friend.

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Posted by Mary Candor on 07/26/2017 at 8:13 PM

Re: “H.P. Lovecraft Meets Art House Cinema in the Odd, Ominous A Ghost Story

I'd be more interested with different actors, but at least it's not a fucking super hero movie or squequel, so I might give this one a watch.

Posted by terryboo on 07/26/2017 at 3:31 PM

Re: “North Carolina FC and John Kane Want to Put a Big Ol' Soccer Stadium in Downtown Raleigh

"razing entire blocks to build a massive stadium in the middle of residential neighborhoods"

Where are you getting that? This is not "in the middle of residential neighborhoods" - it's between the State Government complex and the railroad easement and Capital Boulevard. There are literally no residences in the area.

As for traffic, I look forward to seeing what improvements would be offered - the renewed Capital is going to be substantially better than what we have now, and improvements to Peace are anticipated.

I'm not going to reflexively say no because it's different. It's time we got beyond that knee-jerk response.

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Posted by JohnNC on 07/26/2017 at 3:27 PM

Re: “How One Local Server Learned to Stop Worrying About Bird Poop and Embrace Patio Dining

It's impossible to decide what's worse with this guy, the opinions or the writing. Well, congrats at least on getting my rageclick.

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Posted by Van Buren Boy on 07/26/2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Thank you Ellen for speaking the truth about what pigs in our state have to endure. Now to all the nonvegans reading my comment I urge you to please watch 'What The Health" on Netflix. They have a scene in North Carolina and they talk about environmental racism and the excessive animal waste pollution that is bothering residents.

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Posted by Antwan Foster on 07/26/2017 at 1:54 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Thank you, Ellen and Jessica for speaking up for the true victims of the hog industry. For the hogs, it is 100 percent fatal, and most are killed at only 6 months, far short of their natural lifespans of 15 years. There is no humane way to imprison someone who wants to be free. There is no humane way to clip the teeth, amputate the tails and remove the testicles of fully conscious infants. No wonder the hog industry supported the ag-gag law that prevents whistle-blowers from reporting abuses.

Humans have no nutritional need for pig flesh or any other form of animal flesh or secretions. If you believe its wrong to cause unnecessary suffering and death to anyone, then the only ethical option is to become vegan.

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Posted by Salette Andrews on 07/26/2017 at 1:50 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Bravo Ellen and Jessica for giving these sentient beings a voice!

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Posted by Kathy McManus Martin on 07/26/2017 at 1:43 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Any article or series about hog farming in NC is incomplete without considering the animal welfare angle. Animals, people and the environment are all victims of corporate farming practices that value profits over well being. I appreciate the Indy's coverage of this topic and hope to see it expanded to include animal welfare in future articles.

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Posted by LP on 07/26/2017 at 1:18 PM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Indeed, what about the pigs. We can show compassion to BOTH humans and non-human animals and work towards a better world for all. I'm glad the Indy published the Hogwash series to shed light on the crisis that residents of eastern NC are dealing with, but it shows a lack of journalistic thoroughness to not speak at all about the pigs who suffer through a life of severe pain and misery only to be horrifically slaughtered - simply for the tastebuds of some humans.

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Posted by chucky on 07/26/2017 at 12:38 PM

Re: “Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Durham's Municipal Candidates

I'm glad to hear that Steve Schewel [founder of indyweek] will retain his council seat
if he loses his bid for mayor;
we can relax and keep Steve on council.

Schewel, like others, calls for police reform (eg: de-escalation
& racial equity training), expanded bus service, etc...
ok, & Steve's a nice guy, and would obviously be a good mayor, but

I'm interested in adding a possibly powerfully effective new voice
for police reform
in the person of Tracy Drinker. I've only just met him & liked him;
like Steve & Don & Jillian, and unlike others:
Drinker listens and he seems to be of good character,
but Police Reform is important; actions speak louder than words:
PLEASE RESEARCH AND PUBLISH
HIS HISTORY w.r.t. POLICING & CRIMINAL JUSTICE!
WHAT HAS HE DONE
AND WHAT HAS HE SAID BEFORE HE BECAME A POLITICIAN?

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Posted by Chris Tiffany on 07/26/2017 at 11:49 AM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Thank you Ellen, I am proud to know you. Your passion for the animals is awe-inspiring. Thank you Jessica, for speaking out and caring about these sensitive, intelligent animals. With so many suffering, humans and animals alike, isn't it time to let animal agriculture be a thing of the past? There is no reason but pure selfishness to continue to eat animals, to continue to destroy the lives of poor people that live next to the cafo's. Most people would be incensed if their property values were destroyed due to their neighbors. We pass laws to protect the polluting corporate farms instead of protecting our citizens. Shame on North Carolina.

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Posted by Sylvia Badger on 07/26/2017 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Triangle Refugee Resettlement Agencies Try to Figure Out How a Recent Supreme Court Ruling Will Affect Their Clients

Andrews is the director of Church World Service, not Christian World Service. :)

Posted by Kelly Cohen-Mazurowski on 07/26/2017 at 10:34 AM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Thank you Ellen and Jessica for letting the world know that the ones most heavily impacted by animal agriculture are the animals themselves. In a time when plant based meat substitutes are in virtually every grocery store, you have to ask yourself if your own participation in this industry is really a good idea at all. By boycotting the meat products themselves you can do your part to stop the harmful effects of animal agriculture on the land, air, water, neighbors, and the animals. At the same time you could very well by increasing your own personal health and well being by switching to plant based foods. Some people have reversed heart disease, diabetes, and other conditions by changing their diets in this way.

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Posted by NCSave on 07/26/2017 at 10:28 AM

Re: “What About the Pigs?

Thank you so much, Ellen, for pointing out this glaring oversight. You articulated so perfectly what these innocent souls are enduring. When we know better, we ought to do better - and YOU are doing amazing things like writing letters like this to help educate other compassionate people that animals - all animals, regardless of intelligence - deserve our love and care. That is the only way toward a peaceful world, in my view. These are complex issues, and veganism is a daunting notion for most people, but with you and others in our flourishing community, I have no doubt that things will change much sooner than we ever could have imagined. Keep kicking ass for animals. The path will become clearer and clearer as we forge ahead, doing what is necessary to shine a light on this hidden atrocity and educating others about the beauty and promise of veganism. Indy Week, thank you for publishing this letter and we hope you'll consider writing another article from our perspective. Sincerely, James DeAlto, Co-Founder, Vegans for Peace www.vegansforpeace.org

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Posted by James DeAlto on 07/26/2017 at 10:25 AM

Re: “North Carolina FC Has Come a Long Way in Two Years. But Is Raleigh Ready to Be an MLS Town?

A couple of typos/errors:

It's the "North American Soccer League," not the "National American Soccer League."

The Charlotte Independence are not attached to Charlotte's MLS bid. It's a completely separate group without a team that's pushing for MLS.

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Posted by Chuck Givens on 07/26/2017 at 8:54 AM

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