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Re: “A Duke senior sues the university after being expelled over allegations of sexual misconduct

I've been thinking about this and one question is bothering me. If I had just been raped, would I stay in the same room as my attacker and have a text conversation with four of my friends (running the risk he attacked me again and my phone might run out of battery) or would I leave the room as quickly as possible and phone for a cab? Because I think I would do the latter.
Someone down below asked this, yes, I did read the story.
I read that someone described her as coherent yet embarrassed, then later changed it to she seemed terrified (either not a credible witness or Duke misrepresented the comments).

I read the decision of the panel was unanimous, but I also read that it didn't sound a fair trial
- the boy's witness was sent home
- the panel was given a manual that said in 98% of cases the accuser is telling the truth
- someone investigating gender violence was on the panel - would she have been allowed on the jury in a court of law?

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Posted by marge10 on 06/04/2014 at 1:44 AM

Re: “A Duke senior sues the university after being expelled over allegations of sexual misconduct

I have two sons and a daughter and I read and reread this description of what happened. It's a dreadful mess. And I can see things on both sides...
I guess the one thing I felt a bit puzzled about is if they met that night for the first time, they were dancing, went home to his place, and then the alleged rape took place, then she left him sleeping, how did he get her phone number so he could text her the next day? Just seemed a bit strange to swap numbers if it was just a casual one night stand ( just saying).
Anyway I thought through the things I didn't like hearing about each of them, things that jarred when I read it.

Against him:
- the age difference (5 years)
- he was drunk (did he misread social cues?)
- she got emotional and started crying.
- the insensitivity of the accused's text the next day : what's your name again

Against her:
- she didn't tell the taxi to take her home, seemed to be laughing and joking, apparently knew he would have brought her home for sex yet went up to his room anyway.
- the inconsistency of her story (the medical report. Her being asked by text if she was raped and saying it was like hard to explain). With the best will in the world, a boy cannot mind read. (And it can hurt if she was dry.)
- this ex boyfriend thing; worrying about being thought a slut, apologising to her ex boyfriend (did she feel guilty, still care for her ex-boyfriend, wanted to make him think she was just a victim so he would think better of her?)
- the insensitivity of the accused's text the next day : what's your name again. She must have been incensed. (A revenge thing?)

41 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by marge10 on 05/29/2014 at 10:34 PM

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