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      <![CDATA[Downtown Raleigh looks the way it does BECAUSE of the tracks that are already there. You don't get to be progressive only when it inconveniences other people.
        
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      <![CDATA[Oh enough already. Trains are slow transportation with all the stops so why mess up Raleigh to make a train trip faster?
        
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      <![CDATA[Hi, Wisperjet..<br>
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to borrow an analogy, you "missed the train". The Tier I part of the project <br>
(completed in 2002) selected the route and the stations, and evaluated <br>
ridership based on that.
        
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      <![CDATA[Matt, I have no statistics to back up the assumption that ridership would go down if Raleigh and Durham were to be combined into 1 stop. In my mind I find it very hard to conceive of the idea that people of Raleigh or Durham would not ride because the train didn't stop at their front door.
        
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      <![CDATA[You need to look back further on the <a href="http://sehsr.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sehsr.org</a> website. This is the result<br>
of the second round of environmental studies.
        
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      <![CDATA[I recently was told or read somewhere that the road bed for the high speed train would either have a 10' wall beside the track or the track would be laid 10' down in the ground. I did ride a TGV in France and in some cases there was a berm beside the road bed or we were in a swale.
        
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      <![CDATA[The only reason why SEHSR is even possibly affordable is that it re-uses existing RR tracks (or abandoned RR right of way) between Raleigh and Petersburg. To construct an entirely new railroad in the middle of I-85 would cost five times as much... not a chance of that kind of money.
        
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      <![CDATA[Ok Orulz, I probably didn't make myself well understood. I added the comment to try to get anyone to start thinking differently.
        
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      <![CDATA[Wisperjet, actually I am not sure what you're talking about but it seems you reference aerial tramways, people movers, and monorails all in the same breath, and without any proof say that they are "cheaper faster better and have fewer impacts."<br>
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Firstly you are not going to solve problems revolving around getting to Richmond or DC with any of the technologies you mention. So it sounds like you are comparing your ideas with light rail (not the point of this article but we'll ignore that for now.)<br>
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All of the technologies you talk about are in resort areas like Disney or ski resorts.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think we are only exploring the ideas that have been around for over 100 years. I think we should explore an idea that is not as expensive as tunneling, not as inconvenient as closing street crossings and not as expensive to build as trains and right of ways.
        
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      <![CDATA[Now closing Fairview, however, is stupid. That should be kept open, even if it means rebuilding the bridge over Capital Blvd (which it might) and even if it involves cutting down a few trees, re-grading and re-landscaping a couple of folks' front yards (which it probably would.)
        
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      <![CDATA[1. You can have quiet zones where trains don't blow their horns at crossings.
        
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      <![CDATA[You've failed to cover another potential closing. If the Norfolk Southern lines are used, the access bridge from Fairview Street onto Capital Blvd. would also be closed, slowing and complicating access to downtown from the Five Points neighborhoods.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sorry, in my post above I didn't mean to say that closing a crossing would be hugely expensive. It's the tunneling of tracks that would be hugely expensive (and destructive).<br>
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Glenwood South is one of Raleigh's few pedestrian-friendly areas.
        
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      <![CDATA[I read DLA's statement and it seems to serve the downtown residents well. The problem is that what DLA's asking is unfeasible without an ungodly amount of cash.
        
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      <![CDATA[Man has been putting trains under ground for about 100 years now. If we can't pull this together in the year 2010...
        
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      <![CDATA[Ironically, there was talk several years ago of relocating the NS freight yard to the vicinity of Clayton... but NIMBYs there put a stop to that.<br>
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One advantage to the NS route for SEHSR is that the low-clearance bridges over Peace St and nearby streets would be replaced -- I hope.
        
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