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Re: “Justin Williams is a gifted singer-songwriter whose personal problems get in his music's way

Ryan,

Thanks for clarifying. I was just confused as I knew there was a a past association there, so I thought that was odd. I understand that those were different times and did not know you had severed ties with Jason. Good on ya. I agree with you, Philip's response was very thoughtful and they have handled this very tastefully. I eat crow. Would delete previous comment I made if I could but the site won't let me. Just wanted the facts! I appreciate you taking the time to clear the air. I agree, this conversation should make people think about who and what they are supporting if they are armed with this kind of knowledge. Thanks - Dave

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Posted by DEWaters82 on 04/11/2014 at 12:22 AM

Re: “Justin Williams is a gifted singer-songwriter whose personal problems get in his music's way

Jonnnnny, I think you are referring to noise artist Jason Crumer, a long time friend of Ryan Martin. Crumer has had rape allegations thrown at him not unlike Justin Williams. So I, like you, find it curious that Ryan would drop out of a festival that supports someone like Justin Williams, when he himself has had Jason Crumer play his Savage Weekend fest numerous times and released records by him on Hot Releases and toured with him extensively during his tenure in BoyZone. I think it's kind of shitty that Ryan is standing on a pulpit and in the process kind of shit all over Phuzz Phest and Phuzz Records, who are trying to get something started for Winston Salem and out of their own pockets. I think hypocrisy on any level is lame and this is a shining example of that. Mr. Martin is fine collaborating with "certain" alleged rapists, just not Mr. Williams. With that said, I do think Justin Williams brought this upon himself unfortunately. You can only be a drunk asshole so many times before it bites you in the ass. I do not condone violence against women or at all and think that anyone who has committed acts such as those should be outed and shunned, rightfully so. Either way, the article was kind of patchy and inconclusive. I do hope Williams sticks to his word, quits the booze and doesn't become a deadbeat dad. I think Mr. Martin should let Aimee Argote do the talking.

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Posted by DEWaters82 on 04/10/2014 at 2:55 PM

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