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Re: “Remembrance: Civil wars by other means

In the heat of discussion my point was lost. I am not, have not and will not defend slavery. It is indefensible. My ancestors did not own slaves but did fight for Southern independence and I will honor my ancestry and the rights of states to secede, based on the United States Constitution. And I continue to say that the amorphous federal behemoth that sticks its nose too deeply into state issues, such as education, is the result of the aftermath of the War for Southern Independence. I did not vote for our present president and it had nothing to do with race. He is an extremist liberal whose sole agenda seems to be social justice. He is clueless as a leader and his inexperience at ever leading anything is being revealed in the continuing economic decline. Hopefully his reign of ineptitude will end after one term.

Posted by son of the south on 06/02/2011 at 8:24 AM

Re: “Remembrance: Civil wars by other means

And, by the way, Nate, one of the "ugly and ongoing repercussions" of the Lost Cause is an enormous federal government that now dictatorially intrudes itself in just about every aspect of our lives. It robs from the states rights that our founders intended to remain under state control. This is exactly what noble men like Thomas Jefferson and John C. Calhoun warned would happen. But, maybe you like big brother controlling you. I don't and for the life of me can't understand why any freedom loving American would. And how sad that native Southerners are to be chastised for being proud of their ancestry.

Posted by son of the south on 05/27/2011 at 9:09 AM

Re: “Remembrance: Civil wars by other means

Nate, your comments reveal your ignorance of history as it pertains to the War for Southern Independence. It reveals that you are unaware that the slave trade was a financial boon to the northern states and that even after the abolitionists went on the rampage that many northerners, while crying crocodile tears about slavery, still held slaves themselves. The hypocrisy of the Emancipation Proclamation is that it did nothing to free slaves still held in many northern states and was a worthless piece of paper used strictly for political purpose. Lincoln himself saw African Americans as inferior to whites and said so more than once in the Lincoln-Douglas debates. He was no great emancipator as he was made out to be. He ran roughshod over the constitution northerners so smugly claimed to hold to.

It might interest you to know that very few northerners had any real interest in whether or not the outcome was freeing slaves, especially in light of the fact that many of those same northern states (New Jersey, Ohio, Massachusetts, Illinois, Indiana) had passed laws prohibiting blacks from becoming residents of their states. Long after blacks were given the right to vote in the defeated south many northern states still disenfranchised blacks.

The thing that has caused such acrimony among southerners is the unbridled hypocrisy of the northerners who claimed slavery was the key issue while at the same time were about as racially bigoted as any southerner ever was. At least 6% of those who wore the blue also supported slavery and stated they would not give their lives just to free (insert racial slur here). It might interest you to know that on President Jefferson Davis' final journey (his body being returned to Richmond for burial) at every stop former slaves who had been educated and prepared for entrance into society by the Davis family expressed their love and respect for the man who cared about them, not as chattel, but as human being who would be free and needed to be prepared for that freedom.

It is people like you who feel that all those who have their roots in the south should be placed on a stool of everlasting repentance and be asked to express guilt and regret for slavery. Obviously slavery was a horrible thing and needed to end, but I'll climb on my stool and repent as soon as those who are descendants of the thieves and robbers from the north who raped, pillaged and plundered the south during reconstruction repent. It's funny how easily people can point to the offenses of slavery but overlook the horrible damage done by a radical, unconstitutional federal government following the war.

My encouragement to you, Nate, don't just read the yankee version of history, a version that paints the north as wanting to preserve the union due to high moral principles and deep compassion for the plight of slaves. This invasion by the northern army was based first and foremost of economics and politics. Read both sides of the story. I'll be very glad to recommend some fair and balanced literature to you.

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Posted by son of the south on 05/27/2011 at 8:04 AM

Re: “Remembrance: Civil wars by other means

As I read the article about remembering the "Civil War" I think a couple of notes are in order. First, this was really the War for Southern Independence. As sovereign states, the states that formed the Confederacy had a clear constitutional right to secede and form a new country. The United States of America was not and is not a perpetual union. Yes, it is true that the states that seceded were discontent, but rightfully so. As the region of the country providing the lion's share of antebellum federal revenue the Southern states were unhappy that they were being invaded by Northern aggressors hell bent on keeping them in the union against their wishes and constitutional rights. The reason for the war? Not slavery as some may suggest. Less than 6% of those who served in the confederate forces had any part in slaveholding. It was really about states' rights and economics . To put it in Lincoln's words: Let the south go? Where then would we get our revenues? So as a native southerner and son of the confederacy whose ancestors gave their lives at Gettysburg, I am glad we still remember our failed attempt to form the Confederate States of America and our fallen heroes who valiantly died defending states' rights! I, for one, will not apologize for my heritage and what the overwhelming majority of Southerners fought for in that war, the right to be free and sovereign states.

Posted by son of the south on 05/26/2011 at 12:29 PM

Re: “So, about that rebellion...

Explain your "nope"

Posted by son of the south on 05/26/2011 at 10:44 AM

Re: “So, about that rebellion...

As I read the article about remembering the "Civil War" I think a couple of notes are in order. First, this was really the War for Southern Independence. As sovereign states, the states that formed the Confederacy had a clear constitutional right to secede and form a new country. The United States of America was not and is not a perpetual union. Yes, it is true that the states that seceded were discontent, but rightfully so. As the region of the country providing the lion's share of antebellum federal revenue the Southern states were unhappy that they were being invaded by Northern aggressors hell bent on keeping them in the union against their wishes and constitutional rights. The reason for the war? Not slavery as some may suggest. Less than 6% of those who served in the confederate forces had any part in slaveholding. It was really about states' rights and economics . To put it in Lincoln's words: Let the south go? Where then would we get our revenues? So as a native southerner and son of the confederacy whose ancestors gave their lives at Gettysburg, I am glad we still remember our failed attempt to form the Confederate States of America and our fallen heroes who valiantly died defending states' rights! I, for one, will not apologize for my heritage and what the overwhelming majority of Southerners fought for in that war, the right to be free and sovereign states.

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Posted by son of the south on 05/26/2011 at 10:07 AM

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