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Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

Eklutna, you wrote: ...if we had the slightest idea of what love REALLY is, we would be completely shattered in our understanding.

Wow, that's it in a nutshell. And as you also wrote somewhere above, Bo is still teaching regardless of what he or anyone may suggest. Just look at this thread. We're all teachers to one another, trying not to get shattered by what love truly is.

I don't like the name of this article. All of us have not only 2 faces, but a whole archetypal host of them. Look at some of the images from the Vedas, of gods and goddesses and demons having lots of faces, and those are just the obvious ones. There's so much more, perhaps fearful of discovery, so it cloaks itself in shadows. Imagine someone like Christine Costner-Sizemore, the woman with multiple personality disorder (DID) in the middle of last century, on whose life was based the movie "The 3 Faces of Eve."

But we're all like that; perhaps not so dramatically. This world is so full of trauma that disintegrates personality structures that we've become deadened to most of it, and have even institutionalized it through a lot of dogmatic religions.

Then imagine yourself so filled with that love which Eklutna's teacher described as being "shattering." This *shattering* that such love engenders is hard to grasp when one is in the middle of it, for it is like a mother who demands agreement and cooperation of everyone in the household of the mind.

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Posted by Danishauthor on 09/08/2008 at 6:14 AM

Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

Dear Kevin,

There's no need for you to react like that. Who cares how long anyone has known anybody; we're all far more ancient than such pettiness. I have known Bo since the mid-1970's, lived, worked and shared the most intimate details of life with them in Chapel Hill and elsewhere. Don't you think that anyone with half a heart would have understood what sits lurking beneath anyone's facade?

I've had screaming fights of disagreement with Bo, but I also realize that everywhere anyone reacts to anything... that there sits something for me, for the true Self (in the non-dual, Jungian, Martin Luther etc way) to work on, like the title to a book I read long ago, grist for the mill. Don't you think it's possible for many of us on the journey to understand that?

It's not my place here to write words that only serve to trigger hurt in another human being. It's not my place here to further turn a painful screw in life on another human being, either for a pound of flesh or to feel I may be teaching someone something. The only true lessons that are ever learned are the ones we do from the core of the intuitive heart. As I wrote above, there is a small handful of people on this planet that I thank for my life, and Bo & Sita are 2 of them. That's a truth as real and full of lessons to anyone as anything anyone here might have written.

Having worked as a therapist in Denmark for people who have severe trauma issues in their life, the place in my heart that is ripped is exactly as I wrote above, though I deleted a paragraph above where I share a bit of about what being victimized feels like. But that plus a few sentences that extrapolate on our patriarchal tendencies in the way even some of the best of us are with women in so many ways in society were deleted because it's not my place in this forum to go there. There are too many people on this planet with serious personality issues who get off on seeing another human being humiliated into submission. Those on this planet that truly know me, will be able to read between the lines.

I met Bo's primary spiritual teacher in Boston some 35 years ago when Nixon had earlier left the White House lawn on that helicopter. The teacher had recently come back from India and was now doing tours around the country. And I remember how we were discussing Nixon's total fall from public grace, and what stuck most in my mind are these paraphrased words: That Nixon could chose to let this catastrophe become just the grace he needed.

Not one person needing air on this planet does not have lurking within him- or herself some karmic issue, which our true Self may wish to have addressed in these auspicious times. Since we can call this time on our planet a Kali yuga, and since I do know very well Bo's & Sita's faith, then all this drama here can be a transforming/integrating tool for everyone involved. Just like many on this planet don't seem to be grasping the simple cause-effect truth to global warming and social pandemics, and many of us would wish for our idiotic and self-centered governments and industry to wake up and smell the coffee, the real work is how we individually deal with our own footprints on the planet.

So my humble and unasked for suggestion here is for you to see how the situation from Kindness House and with Bo can make you a more aware person on the planet, and if that includes publicly getting angry at Bo, go for it. Just remember that words spoken out of anger no matter how self-justified, often perhaps due to a sense of loss or fear, generally wind up on your own doorstep. It takes a remarkably humble person in our world so filled with people who, out of their own issues, salivate after another's fall from public grace, to be nakedly angry with great dispassionate love as the true motivator. The number of people on this planet who are personally self-realized in this way, well, the probability is probably pretty low. But like the Dalai Lama and others like Carl Jung have suggested, we all at any moment can chose to become anything we wish. Being *born again* is not a one-time event in life, to be looked back upon with dogmatic fervor. It is an event that has the probability of occurring with each and every heartbeat or breath of that person's life.

See, Kevin, you inspired me with your words directed at me to go a bit deeper into my own heart, and for that I am grateful to you.
Thank you.

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Posted by Danishauthor on 09/07/2008 at 11:05 AM

Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

Becky, I would suggest that what Eklutna expresses from her study of human behavior is an important lesson for us all to learn. Antisocial behavior tends to pool in male populations due to what's not on our Y chromosome and what hormones bathed through us during critical brain development stages; there's potentially far more synaptic communications going on between key regions of the brain that can result in empathic behavioral patterns. Interestingly, meditation practices has empirically been shown to help bridge that gap in the male brain. That need in many males to dominate this way may have served a function long ago, to instantly get rewarded by a rush of biochemicals whenever an attacking lion demanded from the alpha male monkey a heroic rescue of his harem.

In our patriarchal society, the male ego has severely silenced the female voice, possibly due to that fear on a very deep unconscious level if I were to get Jungian about it. So Becky, I don't see an agenda from what Eklutna shared here. She's simply making a scientifically well-founded observation about a serious problem in society.

As to how Bo fits into all this, I have no right to judge except by personal and helpful experience. I imagine there have been shed a lot of tears at Kindness House and by all those unique features that made those gorgeous acres so special prior to its dissolution. I can only imagine the private sorrows between Sita and Bo. And since I know nothing concrete of it, I have no concept of whatever any woman may have felt if violated by Bo. But from my decades of experience with Bo and Sita, I believe that their faith will pull them through anything and everything. I have experienced that faith of theirs for over 3 decades, deeply respect it, and the path to God for a man sometimes might be the female. Jung again... sorry, but there might be a hint here

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Posted by Danishauthor on 09/07/2008 at 2:10 AM

Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

Having been a friend of Bo & Sita since the mid-1970's, when I met them in New York, reading all this from Denmark hurts. Over the decades as I wrote my books, I often traveled to North Carolina and stayed for long periods at both Kindness House and where the couple lived previously in Chapel Hill, in the spirit of human service and a personal issue of my own.

My only comment here is that Bo and Sita are among two people of a small handful in this world whom I kindly would like to thank for the fact that I breathe air today.

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Posted by Danishauthor on 09/06/2008 at 4:37 AM

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