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Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

There is an awful lot of confidence that the whole and true story came out in this article on the part of those who are most condemning.

The way the news media has sunk to its current place is that it is easy to yank our chains. We criticize them yet still buy People magazine and watch the titillating snippets on everyone's affair. We have become easily led suckers: "dittoheads" of all political persuasions.

The one most essential skill that seems dead from my grandparents day is the ability to hold a qualified opinion; to hold in suspicion and wait for more. It is hard work to not fall into the camps of zealously defending or hatefully against on almost any topic. There is not satisfaction or thrill in uncertainty.

Much of our current political mess is tied to this very failing. Without it you are only flotsam adrift not the moral rock we wish to be. I suspect Bo's need for certainty go him into trouble in the first place.

Posted by cchaf on 09/02/2008 at 11:00 PM

Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

Just for perspective try to remember that despite their faults they have done more good in the world than almost ANY of us EVER will.

Part of the reason we don't just kill all the criminals is that people are not "the sum of the worst thing they have ever done." Certainly this must go for ethical failings as well.

Maybe you need an enormous ego and a displaced sense of ones self to try to accomplish such an enormous act. Do we discard and revile Bill Clinton or John Edwards or Eliot Spitzer because of their failings? They did things none of us will live up to. It is so tiring to hear the endless self righteous condemnation that has become political sport in this country.

I cannot know the full truth or extent of it from this article but Bo Lozoff admits to some of it. How integrated he can make this knowledge and what he will do with it is hard to know. Surely we can gain something more from this than just another source of emotional indignation.

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Posted by cchaf on 08/31/2008 at 9:47 PM

Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

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Posted by cchaf on 08/31/2008 at 4:03 PM

Re: “The two faces of Bo Lozoff

I didn't know Bo or Sita well and only met them a few times many years ago. I did however spend two years in a Christian commune when I was young and saw some of the complicated and difficult dynamics in making an intentional community work. There were many ways for standards to start drifting as a result of isolation. Because of the small size there is less inertia and these can change fast. I will honor them for their work and sacrifice that seems to have helped so many that the rest of us conveniently forget. (We judge with the broader standards of our society and just because these seem "normal" doesn't mean they can't be far off as well.) While I honor the Independent for trying to tackle such a huge and complicated story I think it is really more on the scale of something "Frontline" would do. There is a lot at stake here. These people have done great things and I think it is important to understand just what went wrong and by how much. Hopefully this is just the beginning of a larger look at this. I'd like their work to be honored but to also for there to be a record so others can be aware of how easy it is to go far astray.

Posted by cchaf on 08/31/2008 at 4:02 PM

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