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Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

Fact: the counties with the most white Republicans also have the HIGHEST percentage of citizens on welfare. More white people are on welfare than blacks. White people think they should be able to drop out of HS, get no training or additional education, and not have to "lower themselves" to do the kind of work many people from Mexico are proud to do and do well instead of halfway.

As a former teacher in a high poverty area where everybody was poor (black, white, and Hispanic), if I had a problem student I would prefer to deal with Hispanic parents every time. They are respectful, grateful, and appreciate the value of their child's education. They understand thT you are on their side and they cooperate to help their child be successful. I've never had to call an Hispanic parent twice to get their child in line.

Dealing with many of the white parents and/or black parents however was often challenging. Many had an entitled attitude and believe that everybody is just picking on their sweet, innocent child rather than understanding that a teacher can't teach 28 students when 1 decides he/she doesn't have to obey the rules or respect others. Perhaps some of us need to be knocked down a few pegs to appreciate being able to work (instead of refusing "menial" tasks) and understand that the opportunity available to their children to receive a good, free, and public education is a privilege not everyone has and understand that educators shouldn't be treated like servants to them and their out of control children.

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Posted by SaneJam on 11/16/2016 at 8:55 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

I visited Mount Olive for the first and last time in September of this year with my Daughter, Granddaughter, and Grandson to visit my Daughter's family on her Father's side. I am White, and my Daughter is Black and White, as are my Grandchildren. We were less than one mile in to town, when the police who we passed (doing the speed limit), raced up behind us, and were on our bumper all the way to our hotel. I am a Disabled Veteran, with Florida license plates that CLEARLY say Disabled Veteran on them. When I explained what happened to the White woman who worked the front desk at the hotel she said "oh, yeah these police are really racist here." However, what really made me mad/sad was my Daughter's family when they said "Oh yeah, they do that all the time." Really? All. The. Time. People that I know and love are subjected to this all the time, and its been normalized for them. I saved my receipts from my trip there, and I spent around $700.00 in Mount Olive. I will never spend another dime in that town, and I make sure to let anyone I know hear about what my family experienced there. That's not the way you treat visitors because they don't look like you. Just because you're poor and ignorant, or in a position of power (police) it doesn't give you an excuse to be racist.

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Posted by Jane Francis on 11/16/2016 at 8:33 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

Here's a broader perspective on this problem. Those of us who have grown up and had to live in it don't have to have it explained to us.
http://forsetti.tumblr.com/post/153181757500/on-rural-america-understanding-isnt-the-problem

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Posted by Bryant Henderson on 11/16/2016 at 8:31 PM

Re: “The Eyes of a Child: A Twelve-Year-Old Comes to Grips with Trump

As the old saying goes, "The golden age of science fiction is 12." Any bright, engaged 12-year-old who is smart enough to love sci-fi, cares about the future. And any one that intelligent *should* worry about the twit America just put in the White House.

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Posted by Jape on 11/16/2016 at 7:00 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

I say anyone on food stamps should do some type of work for the state or county. That way there is some sweat equity is the food stamps and they have more value to the people receiving them. And all receiving should HAVE TO take drug test in order to receive the benefits. Now if they have a disability then other avenues of work should be looked into.

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Posted by Jonathan 1 on 11/16/2016 at 6:14 PM

Re: “What I Got Wrong: How I Misread an American Election

This is beautiful, if one thinks the editorial smug, this is the problem with not being a critical thinker. Simple, broad unrealistic and often prejudice "solutions" are all this type can understand. And can't be expected to understand why this article is so spot on. Depressing!

Posted by Lauratee on 11/16/2016 at 6:03 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

It's time for Obama to allow access to his natal hospital record to set this matter to rest, at least as far as where and when he was born. As a matter of record, Trump has already published his natal hospital birth certificate and well as his state birth certificate. The fact that Obama hasn't, is the biggest reason this accusation has legs on it for the last eight years.

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Posted by batazoid on 11/16/2016 at 5:57 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

I was born/raised/ and currently live in Wayne County, after a 7 year stint living in NYC. I cannot adequately express my disgust at what I see almost daily since the election. Just today I was driving home and saw a fresh swastika spray painted on a SCHOOL ZONE SIGN near Spring Creek Elementary. I will never and can never come around to this way of thinking. I am proud to be one of the few that opposed this president and everything he stands for in Wayne County. To anyone reading this that lives in this area and feels marginalized, even though it is sadly nothing new, I'm with you, you are not alone.

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Posted by Lauren J on 11/16/2016 at 5:40 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

Every comment I read is true, but that hatred goes both ways. I grew up in and served in the military myself where we didn't see race, just brothers and sisters. I saw racism from both whites and blacks while in NC.

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Posted by Kevin 1 on 11/16/2016 at 5:35 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

So there is a silver lining to this. Those people will be dead soon (thanks to that cigarette) and their children are voting differently (did you see what the map looked like with YOUNG voters)? They can stall this but they cannot stop it. Hallalujah!!

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Posted by Amy 1 on 11/16/2016 at 5:19 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

I work at Walmart and I have seen more whites than blacks spend food stamps.Old white ladies with all that Damn jewelry on.I wish folks would stop thinking blacks just get government assistance.

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Posted by Yolanda Price Garner on 11/16/2016 at 4:51 PM

Re: “It’s Time to Stop Laughing Off Poor White Men’s Malignancy—And Their Humanity

In re-reading the article - something stuck out at me...

"Many of Trump's supporters, especially poor white men, are indeed virulent bigots, and those who are not still endorsed one. That is truly shocking and irredeemable on moral grounds. We can never normalize, compromise with, or assimilate bigoted views in our civil society; we must actively confront them at every incidental and structural turn."

I supplant this with the evidence that those who are protesting and rioting Trump, are not the Supporters of Trump, but the supporters of Clinton. As I go down the definitions and the history as I look in the mirror - I see that the fanatics were NOT Trump Supporters, but supporters of Clinton.

Bigoted views are part of the civil society. Pomp and Circumstance - Pride and Prejudice - It has been in play ever since we came out of the primordial goo. It is a given that you will not override that which is inherent in every persons DNA.

That being said - we can confront them - but we wary that the Constitution does not give you free speech rights in front of others - only from censorship from the government.

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Posted by Matt Price on 11/16/2016 at 4:34 PM

Re: “It’s Time to Stop Laughing Off Poor White Men’s Malignancy—And Their Humanity

This is the ideological platform that lost the election. It is believed that the penis is a malignancy - that is fine - it is as malignant as breasts are to women. It does not matter if you are white or not - the idea of inclusiveness in the United States was shot out the window when diversity became a new word for discrimination.

Diversity has been pushed so hard to the point where it simply broke, and it started putting people in a position of being discriminated against because of being white (racism) or ideological basis. The only way to have the country come together is to shit-can the idea that diversity is going to get us there. It won't.

Sure - celebrate our differences - but work like we have none. The character of a person counts more than their color - according to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr - so why have we allowed it to become a weapon? This is the ideological platform that lost the election.

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Posted by Matt Price on 11/16/2016 at 4:28 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

Wait...Did he just say in this article... ""I mean, there ain't no jobs around here because the aliens are working for next to nothing," he said. "Does that sound American to you? We're giving our prosperity to them."
When asked if he'd be willing to pick cucumbers or tobacco, Bolton got defensive. "Just because I don't want that kind of work doesn't mean some Mexican should get it. A part of me says we should let them stick it out on them fields, but it ain't right."
So who, then, should companies like Mount Olive Pickle and Butterball hire to take on jobs men like Bolton want no part of?
"Give 'em to the blacks who sit at home on the porch all day," he said. "Make 'em earn that government check. Know what I'm sayin'?"

Umm I know what you are saying... You are saying... You want the good ol days of slavery back! (It's hard to type with both middle fingers up)

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Posted by Summer 1 on 11/16/2016 at 4:27 PM

Re: “Will to Live Cautiously Returning? Here's a Few Things to Do This Week.

You stopped the arts coverage to cover the election..... You were probably better off just covering the arts, rather than the elections. Your readership would have went up.

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Posted by Matt Price on 11/16/2016 at 4:21 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

Imari Oliver you hit the nail on the head with what you said. I also grew up in Mt. Olive right across from the Pickle Plant and this type of ignorance and racism has ALWAYS been there. Those people in this article who spew that kind of racial be will be the first to say this and that about people, but if you try to challenge their views or tell them what they are saying is wrong, it's as if they are all of a sudden deaf and dumb!!! I told myself if I ever got out of Wayne County, Lord willing I would never be back. Thankfully, that has been the case, except to visit family who still lives in that "black hole!!"

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Posted by Beth Rivenbark on 11/16/2016 at 4:21 PM

Re: “The Eyes of a Child: A Twelve-Year-Old Comes to Grips with Trump

Sorry - if anyone has emotionally damaged their kid to the point where they are that sensitive - both the parents and the kid need to go seek a psychologist. Cause a 12 year old shouldn't care.

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Posted by Matt Price on 11/16/2016 at 4:17 PM

Re: “It’s Time to Stop Laughing Off Poor White Men’s Malignancy—And Their Humanity

I think you are somewhat conflating progressive values/cultural elitism with wealth and privilege. Trump won among all different kinds of whites, not just rural and poor but also suburban and well-off. According to Politico, rural voters only represented 17% of the electorate - they may have overwhelmingly supported Trump, but they were far from constituting the totality of his coalition. Also, I think characterizing Clinton as "a technocrat who represents a status quo that has economically failed them" is unfair when she did in fact put forth a number of concrete proposals to improve the lives of Americans who are struggling, including raising the minimum wage and tuition-free college. Regardless of how you gauge the level of her sincerity or likelihood of getting those things accomplished, it was still a heck of a lot more than her opponent offered in the way of actual tangible solutions. Does that leave us with the conclusion that millions of adult Americans lack the capacity to make a responsible decision? Or did they weigh the factors and just decide that some things were more important to them than others?

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Posted by Van Buren Boy on 11/16/2016 at 3:55 PM

Re: “In Wayne County, N.C., Trump’s America Is Angry

Complain about the jobs the Mexicans have but you still don't want those. Give them to the poor blacks sitting on their porches? Someone needs to make him aware that there are more whites than any other race receiving food stamps and other government assistance in the U.S. Ignorance runs amuck in these parts smh.

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Posted by Khelmz on 11/16/2016 at 3:39 PM

Re: “Where Do We Go from Here?

I think that it is increasingly funny that by your perspective, Clinton should have won. This tells be that you have no line of communication to the other side of the fence.

What do I mean? What I mean is that you pushed your own ideals through your media of choice, and in doing so - you attempted to drown out the "static" from the other side rather than come to the table and have a conversation about the concerns. It's OK - you aren't the only one who did it - I did too.

But - the difference between someone throwing a fit now a week after the election and today is that I went through and critically went through in my own mind and asked myself how I, ME, let it happen.

And the answer was - I would not listen. I would turn a cold shoulder like a pompous ass and not think that the chord they were striking with the everyday man and women was going to matter. But it did. The eMail Scandal, past history, and all of the other criminal behavior that was supposed during the election that I told myself "We are all good Christians, we can forgive her for that" led up to a very pissed off and very determined group that went all out to get Trump elected.

By taking the stance that you are going to waste your paper on saying how America is at fault for the election is the same as saying that you refuse to take responsibility as I have for being a pompous, narcissistic asshole - and you are going to write hit piece after hit piece to attempt to go through why simply you attempted to lead folks down a road they were let down.

Understand, I am no hack. But some times you have to grow up and check your values. If you refuse - guess what - it will happen again.

This is why there are many disallusioned people in the Democrat party who believe today that the election created a vortex that sucked in the party and as of now, it is in Name only. Heck - the ones who are in office now can't get their shit together to elect a leader - this is the very same thing we accused the Republicans of having a problem with and said that they were in disarray. They weren't - they bit off small chunks - they waited - and when it was time to pounce - they knocked our dick in the dirt - and now we see that it was the party that we supported that was in disarray.

I don't know about you all - but I don't think I can trust anyone running for office because they don't speak to the people - they speak toward the money. As far as Trump is concerned - he don't need the money - he is only taking a Buck a year - that is telling me that perhaps those who are painting him with a very bad paintbrush don't necessarily have the larger picture in mind.

Afterall - if we don't talk and exchange ideas and understand our enemies - they will hand us our ass - because we, ourselves are being too ignorant to listen to the train on the tracks coming right at us.

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Posted by Matt Price on 11/16/2016 at 3:26 PM

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