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Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

What the neighbors should do is get together and apply to open a couple of junk yards, a cement plant, a shooting range, and a real factory farm with pigs. That would fix the Brewer's little red wagon. I wonder how many weddings you could have next to that stuff. lol If the county won't reign them in, the nieghbors can!

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Posted by Bluetrain on 02/23/2017 at 9:52 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

Developers here in Chapel Hill and Orange county are CONSTANTLY trying to game the system. We just booted a mayor and half a town council over this kind of shenanigans. As I watch a seven story high rise one right after the other go up right beside my single family home with no road improvements.... Money talks with these folks.

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Posted by Bluetrain on 02/23/2017 at 9:49 PM

Re: “Nominate your favorites

I do not see an option to nominate. I only see categories that have entries already added. I want to nominate a few businesses. Help.

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Posted by Alexis S. on 02/23/2017 at 9:31 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

In response to Joseph Pepe's comment: there's nothing realistic about letting the Brewers and Southeast Property Group game the system to build their event center. Are they entrepreneurs or are they farmers? Applying for a special use permit to build an event center on property zoned for residential and farm use sounds like they're entrepreneurs. Unfortunately for them, the Board of Adjustments correctly denied the permit because the event center wasn't in harmony with the property's surroundings. So they played their next card - they somehow obtained a USDA farm number, changed their application to say they were a farm and that their $735,000 building was a utility building, not an event center, and received approval from the Orange County Planning Department. I guess that's the point where they began to identify themselves as farmers. Nobody is being sandbagged here except maybe the rural community surrounding the event center.

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Posted by sbeeman on 02/23/2017 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

The question has been raised "how many tractors are stored in the Brewer's barn?' How many tractors does it take to grow flowers, chestnut trees, or manage bee hives to produce honey? I would think you could accomplish all of that withour the use of a tractor. And how many executives who manage the many "corporate farms" live on those farms. Let's be realistic and allow the entreprenurial spirit raised by this young couple to florish and not be sandbagged. Incidentally, doubful that you will find a tractor anywhere near a "fish" farm.

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Posted by Joseph Pepe on 02/23/2017 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Raleigh Raises Fees on Developers

WakeUP Wake County spoke at the public hearing in support of raising the development fees because with rapid growth, there is a cost of doing business. Developers should cover the costs to the city in order to keep the burden off taxpayers.

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Posted by Karen Rindge on 02/23/2017 at 9:47 AM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

So many questions come to mind after reading this article. In the photo attached to the article, the Brewers are shown watering their "orchard" with water they brought to the property. Why? Because after owning the property for two years and planting 36 chestnut trees and a small flower bed, they apparently have not yet put in a well on their property. That's right, a farm with no water for irrigating their crops. If they're primarily a farm and the wedding events are incidental to farm use, why is building the barn and booking the weddings taking priority over digging a well? Second, Chris Brewer of Southeast Property Group is quoted as saying " We could have built a barn with four poles and a roof but if we make it a little bit nicer...we can also do weddings as well." Apparently building a $735,000 barn on a quarter-million dollar property with a lighting budget of $78,000 for the chandeliers alone is what he means by a "little nicer." It just doesn't ring true that a real farmer who wants to hold weddings in their barn to supplement their farm income would spend $735,000 on building a 4200 square foot barn (including $78,000 to spend on chandeliers) the sole farming purpose of which is "to process flowers and chestnuts in the late fall." Sounds to me like "alternative facts" from the Brewers. Finally, I'm perplexed by David Owens opining that the weddings are "pretty clearly incidental" to the flower farm. The evidence that I heard presented at the October Board of Adjustment hearings (read the minutes here: http://preserveruralorange.org/uploads/BOA…) doesn't make that clear at all, and as the article says the BOA seems to doubt that the Barn of Chapel Hill is anything other than an events center. The Orange County Planning Department believes their hands are tied because the Brewers have a USDA farm number and are thus considered a bona fide farm and exempt from zoning regulations that apply to commercial endeavors. (Why they were able to obtain a farm number for 22 acres of wooded property that they had never farmed is unclear.) But if nonfarm uses on a farm property ARE NOT exempt from county zoning rules, then common sense tells us that this $735,000 event center disguised as a utility barn on a property with farming activity that is clearly secondary should not be exempt.

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Posted by sbeeman on 02/23/2017 at 9:47 AM

Re: “Chapel Hill had to decline FEMA money to buy flood-prone condos at Camelot Village

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Posted by MelissaMueller on 02/23/2017 at 5:32 AM

Re: “In an Open Letter, 2,943 Fellow Duke Alumni Ask Trump Senior Adviser Stephen Miller How He Became Such a Horrible Person

Kayt, I think we could be friends too. Looking for areas where we agree and then exploring ideas together would probably go a long way to bridging the gaps that develop in discussion areas like this. If we did that, I'd have to admit that I am very uncomfortable with how cozy the democratic party has become with the banking industry, and I'm very uncomfortable with how little attention the democratic party pays to the level of income inequality that has arisen in the past 40 years. I'd still want to ask you about supporting a man like T who behaves and talks the way he does (and has for many years). I'd also be interested in why you think that the federal government is run by elites trying to tell us how to run our lives. I think of the federal government as a partner in accomplishing the will of the people.

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Posted by Rich 1 on 02/22/2017 at 9:59 PM

Re: “In an Open Letter, 2,943 Fellow Duke Alumni Ask Trump Senior Adviser Stephen Miller How He Became Such a Horrible Person

So stating a plea that stems from shared experience in this open letter is a left rant? How would you prefer they state it? Calling out intolerance is not intolerance. Sorry. Bigotry of bigotry is not an attack on diversity of thought. It's the same thought over and over across history. It's not diverse. It's one color that repeats itself over and over, striving to wash out any color that challenges it's power and brightness. You are correct it is intolerance of bigotry and intolerance. Intolerance of intolerance= Tolerance.

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Posted by Jeffrey K. Miller on 02/22/2017 at 5:36 PM

Re: “In an Open Letter, 2,943 Fellow Duke Alumni Ask Trump Senior Adviser Stephen Miller How He Became Such a Horrible Person

For a letter striving to promote tolerance and diversity, it failed and became nothing more than a left rant against Stephen Miller. That was neither tolerant of his diversity nor respectful. Thank God for our First Amendment. Right?

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Posted by alberthall on 02/22/2017 at 3:23 PM

Re: “Donald Trump Promised Big Bucks for Infrastructure. Could That Save Light Rail?

Light rail is a fun idea, but definitely not cost effective to build, maintain or use. The upcoming infrastructure spending is better focused on building/repairing bridges/roads that serve cars, motorcycles, and commercial buses and trucks for providing goods and services. Vote no to light rail.

Posted by alberthall on 02/22/2017 at 2:56 PM

Re: “In the White-Dominated Space of Corporate Folk, Kaia Kater and Others Are Finding Their Footholds

The mid-19th-century minstrel banjo is one of the first manifestations of the meeting of these musical worlds - Africans and Europeans. Along with the fiddle, the banjo was the most popular instrument in African-American music in the United States through the 18th and into the 19th century. In the early 1800s, white musicians began to take up the banjo in imitation of southern African-American players. By the mid-1800s, white professional stage performers had popularized the banjo all across the United States and in England and had begun their own banjo traditions as they popularized new songs. Because these musicians usually performed with blackened faces, they came to be known as blackface minstrels. Interesting history.

Posted by alberthall on 02/22/2017 at 2:37 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

Heh. How many tractors are stored in the Brewers "barn"? Don't Orange County farmers usually live on their farm in Orange County rather than in a high dollar subdivision in Chatham County?

Enquiringly.

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Posted by where's the beef? on 02/22/2017 at 1:37 PM

Re: “The 18-Year-Old Who Owned Richard Burr in Sunday’s N&O

I saw this ad and shared a picture on Facebook, getting positive responses from all over the country. Thanks for making activism fun again!

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Posted by Amy Trojanowski on 02/22/2017 at 1:33 PM

Re: “Updated: Jewish Day School Evacuated Amid Bomb Threat. Police Clear Scene.

Has this type of threat happened in Durham before? How about the greater RTP area?

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Posted by alberthall on 02/22/2017 at 12:44 PM

Re: “The 18-Year-Old Who Owned Richard Burr in Sunday’s N&O

I'm so proud of Senator Burr and Senator Tillis. But that was a clever ad.

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Posted by alberthall on 02/22/2017 at 12:42 PM

Re: “In the White-Dominated Space of Corporate Folk, Kaia Kater and Others Are Finding Their Footholds

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Posted by jmknc on 02/22/2017 at 10:52 AM

Re: “Cooper Offers HB 2 Compromise. It's a Bad Deal.

Completely disagree.

#1 There's nothing "trans" about increasing penalties on "bathroom crimes" unless it's already in your head.
#2 A cooling off period is better than no period at all, which is what we have now.
#3 Bigots cannot be "spanked" into non-bigots by forcing them into accountability for previous actions. #4 Conservatives will continue to whine no matter what.

So much to gain from the compromise that the article never explores

Posted by PinkDrinks on 02/22/2017 at 10:01 AM

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