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Re: “Lack of appreciation for Oakwood; Spence responds to lost boy report

Like it or not, the people who opposed the style of your new home in Oakwood lost the right to complain once the building permit was issued and construction began. Their attempts to reverse the decision AFTER the permit was issued and the building was started were wasteful, self-serving, divisive, and archaically imbecilic. I for one would like to offer an apology for the whining, inattentive, and less intelligent members of our community. As the Bible says, "Forgive them for they know not what they do." Congratulations on the completion of your new home. I hope it provides you with decades of enjoyment. Just the thought provides me with pleasure.

Posted by DR B on 10/20/2014 at 1:40 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

I wanted to offer some very simple advice to the hysterics/cowards who are afraid to attend the State Fair without their guns. STAY HOME! Or better yet, if you consider the situation to be as dire as you adamantly profess, provide an army of concealed carry permit holders to escort people from the gates back to their vehicles where they can reunite with their beloved/sacred guns. Never mind the fact that the potential for accidental discharge and/or ALL of the other firearm mishaps has been eliminated by eliminating guns and will increase when they are reunited with their beloved/sacred guns. OR the fact that up until your whining there has never been a problem at the State Fair. I apologize for interjecting fact/reality into your fantasy world.

Posted by DR B on 10/20/2014 at 1:28 AM

Re: “Re: Art of Cool; Clay Aiken

That unnecessary, oppressive, backward minded, embarrassingly idiotic law will be overturned and/or ruled invalid by the courts before 2016 ever gets here. So sorry for your loss Proudly Unaffiliated. Why don't you educate us on all of this voter fraud by listing the cases in the last 100 years. What's that? You can't list any because there weren't any? Now that is just stoopid! Spelling error intended to emphasize the ignorance of the imbeciles who support this law.

Posted by DR B on 10/20/2014 at 1:07 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Well, uhm, uh, not sure what to say about the troll stuff, it seems to demeaning and appropriate at the same time, what should I say? (Flushed red face) Dang, it is so unnerving to be treated so harshly when I am just trying to help IndyWeek be at the progressive cutting edge, which I am sure they want to be. But, um, maybe it is OK to look at what the N&O has said---

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/17/424…

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Posted by ProudlyUnaffiliated on 10/19/2014 at 12:13 AM

Re: “I thought my baseball card collection had value. It did, but only to me.

Hey, please check out our very new business, "dope cards N box breaks"... plenty of cards already sold and are being sold on ebay + youtube box breaks ;) thanks!! https://www.youtube.com/user/dopecardsnboxbreaks

Posted by Jordan Cailey Lang on 10/18/2014 at 5:38 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Question, why would anyone spam links to the John Locke Foundation's pet rag (Carolina Journal) and claim as their handle 'Proudly Unaffiliated'?

What's next, links to the Moonie Washington Times from 'Mr. Centrist' or articles from the Daily Worker from 'No Labels'?

I'm all for different points of view, but patently partisan trolls who are just awe shucks common folk is insulting to our intelligence.

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Posted by Sogno on 10/17/2014 at 12:53 PM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Memo to all IndyWeek staff: this solar energy deal with Hagan is only getting worse. We need to hear from you on this!

http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/…

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Posted by ProudlyUnaffiliated on 10/17/2014 at 9:24 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

I find it absolutely hilarious that the legislators crafting more bills to allow guns pretty much anywhere in NC (I won't, though, get into the absurdity of allowing someone to get drunk with a gun on his hip in front of a bunch of people, and then someone says something about his girlfriend, now we've got a couple dead people.....) themselves DO NOT allow them anywhere near where they work. What I want to know is, is the fear for your life everytime you go out for coffee a reality that you have to have the gun? Both sets of my grandparents lived to their 80s, and never experienced getting shot at (as civilians anyway) and never had a home break-in. Neither of my parents have ever been held up at gun point, and they're going on 65. I'm 35, spend most weekends downtown Raleigh and when I lived in Richmond (at one point, highest rate of murder per capita) also spent most weekend nights downtown, and I've never even seen a gun in person except for in Wal-Mart. Furthermore, none of my friends have ever had any problems along those lines. So where is this concern coming from, because it sure seems absent from most people's lives. I also pose this question: has anyone of you who owns a gun, except for military/police individuals, ever shot anyone? Because I guarantee that the criminal you might (but most likely never) encounter will have shot somebody before and won't think twice for a split-second about shooting you if it comes to a "shoot out", but you might. Shooting pieces of paper is one thing. Shooting clay frisbees is one thing. Heck, even shooting an animal is one thing. But when you've got a choice to eliminate someone's life? I can bet you will think twice. That's a completely different thing. And a special note to Jay, that's some real concern you show for your fellow citizen, your fellow Raleigh-ite. You wouldn't help someone who was in need? That's the problem with our society; it's not "liberalism" as a lot of you like to cop to, but this selfish, "I got mine, your're on your own" attitude.

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Posted by Jason Gill on 10/16/2014 at 7:07 PM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Well given the dig into Tillis and luke warm support for Hagan, "silence" could be the preferred theme of the day. So let us declare a new award for silence and the winner is... the North Carolina media! We know why Kay Hagan stays silent because this looks and smells as rotten as can be for her. But can IndyWeek, the N&O, the CO and all the rest not examine and weigh in on this? Facts please, as many as you can lay your hands on.

http://www.carolinajournal.com/daily_journ…

Have one or more federal laws been violated? But it is so bad, I am not sure which is worse-- breaking a law or not breaking a law. The insider cronyism Hagan participated in was, at a minimum, a dreadful lapse in ethics. For the NC media to ignore this issue and let it hang around unresolved is a massive disservice to the voters of this state.

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Posted by ProudlyUnaffiliated on 10/16/2014 at 11:32 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Holy crap did that spin out of control quickly! This started as an interesting article on why legislators are mum about the intent behind a law they created. The final product reads like Mr. Geary had too many espresso shots and just typed up everything that his brain considered to be remotely related to the subject.

"Naturally, then, I understood the act to mean that if I were to be held up at the fair, eager permit-holders would spring to my defense, drawing on the criminal and demanding he surrender on his knees or die in a hail of bullets".

Does you being robbed put anyone's life in imminent danger? Do you feel like the use of deadly force would be justified? Why do you assume that everyone carrying would think that such force would be justified? Why do you consistently portray us a "eager to shoot" when there are no examples of this behavior playing out?

The fundamental flaw in every opinion piece like this is that concealed carry permit holders don't live by the same Run>Hide>Fight mental process as non-carry holders. The reason we carry isn't "fear", it's "more options". Having a firearm gives me better options for places to hide, and better options for ways to fight for my life if the situation escalates to that point. That's it. No vigilante complex. No terror at the thought of walking about in public. No duty to save your possessions from being taken. Just personal options.

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Posted by Mark Leedom on 10/16/2014 at 10:15 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

I make it a point never to take my wallet where my guns are not welcomed.

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Posted by William Campbell on 10/16/2014 at 9:40 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Politicians respond to voters. Most of them do not give a rats ass about protecting the rights of their constituents, they are just in it for the power (and after money opportunities). Dmes cater to big business and the voters who suck on the Gov teet, and Repubs cater to big business and gun rights activists. Looks like we have a bunch of RINOS in Raleigh.

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Posted by Pat Orsban on 10/16/2014 at 7:00 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Bob's rather sarcastic article is really an opinion piece, of course, that only points out the fecklessness of our politician class.
What we lack in this country is leadership. What our leaders excel jn is turning their backs, pointing their fingers and passing the buck.
The buck doesn't stop anywhere until it gets to China.

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Posted by Barry Jaeger on 10/16/2014 at 6:46 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

WaltB, you've made an error when you think I carry a concealed weapon to protect those around me. If you don't care enough about your personal safety to protect yourself, why should I worry about you? I carry to protect *me* and my family. I feel no obligation to extend that protection to you. You can wait for trained people to show up. Obviously time is not an issue for you so no worries.

I'm willing to take my chances with the cops.

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Posted by Jay Hanig on 10/16/2014 at 5:16 AM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

The General Assembly does not allow firearms in its buildings except by authorized police. I believe this rule is pursuant to the broad authority of the legislature to make its own rules rather than to the firearms laws that apply to everybody else. At any rate, here's the relevant part of the General Assembly's rulebook for the Legislative Building and the Legislative Office Building:

IV. POSSESSION OF WEAPONS IN LEGISLATIVE COMPLEX. Except as provided by State or federal law, possession of deadly weapons is prohibited in the Legislative Complex. This rule shall not apply to:

A. Officers and enlisted personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States when in the discharge of their official duties as such and acting under orders requiring them to carry arms and weapons.

B. Civil officers of the United States while in the discharge of their official duties.

C. Officers and soldiers of the North Carolina National Guard when on duty or called into service.

D. Officers or employees of the State, or any county, city, or town charged with the execution of the laws of the State, when acting in the discharge of their official duties if authorized by law to carry weapons.

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Posted by Bob Geary, INDY Opinion Columnist on 10/16/2014 at 1:36 AM

Re: “It's legal: gay marriage in North Carolina

Well done!

Posted by jdkees on 10/15/2014 at 7:04 PM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Is it legal to carry concealed weapons into the General Assembly building?

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Posted by jupdegra on 10/15/2014 at 5:32 PM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

"Assemblies where a fee is charged for admission" include First Night. What thinks our Wake delegation - about guns at this event?

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Posted by Jackie Holcombe on 10/15/2014 at 5:28 PM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Bob,

Perhaps if you wrote an article on how Kay Hagan has run from her record supporting Obama, we might find this column useful.

At least Kay hasn't denied she voted for the President, so far.

Hope to see you at the Fair!!

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Posted by MJKopechne on 10/15/2014 at 3:58 PM

Re: “Republicans are silent after voting to allow firearms at the State Fair

Thanks, KareemH, you perhaps know something I don't. Sen. Barringer was listed on the vote for final passage as excused from voting rather than as an abstention or, a third category, as not voting because of an excused absence.

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Posted by Bob Geary, INDY Opinion Columnist on 10/15/2014 at 2:06 PM

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