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Re: “How your mortgage with First Citizens Bank helped pay for a seat in Congress

Holding is the second son of the second son. In 19th century England, he would have had to join the priesthood or the military. Here, things are different. The family had to find something to do just to keep him out of the bank where they did not want him, obviously. He's a stuffed shirt and a jerk. That said, money will take him to Congress at least for a while. It's disgusting.

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Posted by BillRandallNC on 11/02/2012 at 3:25 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

> Meanwhile, Brooks, who served as labor commissioner for 16 years, from 1977–1993, has a spotty history. It was under his watch that the infamous fire at a Hamlet chicken processing plant, Imperial Foods, killed 25 workers. It was later learned that exit doors had been locked and the labor department had not conducted a safety inspection at the facility in 11 years.
> Should this incident color Brooks' political career? For the families of the 25 workers, yes it should. In addition, Brooks, currently a staff attorney with the N.C. Industrial Commission, had 16 years to accomplish his goals.

This is just bull and any responsible reporter should know that. Go to any law library and you will find more pro-worker labor law precedents set when John Brooks was Labor Commissioner than any one fore or after him - even their precious Harry Payne.

Yes - John Brooks was Labor Commissioner when there was a fire at the Hamlet Food Processing Plant - it was not a chicken processing plant. Get that right PLEASE!

But due to the business progressives in the NC Legislature, they wrote the laws which stated clearly that NC-OSHA can only inspect businesses that are registered with the Secretary of State's office, or if there was a complaint received. There were no complaints received from employees, and the folks at Imperial Foods did not properly register their business. Therefore NC OSHA didn't know Imperial Foods even existed until the fire. So please tell me how that is the fault of John Brooks?

You mention the locked exit doors - that's the responsibility of the Fire Marshall who is also the Insurance Commissioner. So why blame the Labor Commissioner for that too?

The incident should not color Brooks' political career. You are either lying or misleading your readers and the families of those workers when you continue to spread falsehoods about John Brooks. And you most certainly know that we've had plenty of elected leaders want to make much needed reforms and they can't succeed because of resistance even from members of their own party. How long have we been trying to have real health care reform in the USA? How long have we been trying to get collective bargaining for public employees? Yet you have the nerve to claim that one man trying to bring labor law into the 20th century when dealing with legislators who after Payne was elected overturned a reform that came about AFTER the Hamlet Fire?

I saw you smear Brooks when you endorsed a corporate lobbyists (government affairs lawyer) for the Democratic nomination. But when real Democrats spoke up and elected Brooks in the primary runoff, I can't believe that it pissed you inside the Beltline types so much that you would pick Cherie Berrie? Are you nuts? She's ready to re-institute child labor and indentured servitude!

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Posted by ProgPitBull on 11/01/2012 at 10:14 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Voting Guide

What happened to the discussion of Cherie Berry and link to an alternate view* of her?


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Posted by MBH on 10/30/2012 at 3:30 PM

Re: “Bill Cole

RE: Question 7:
I think it might be worthwhile to explain Soil and Water District to High School Seniors who will be voting for the first time (and HS students who will in future elections). Local elections are those where one's vote weighs heaviest. Also, it's important to know from where our water comes, and why there's "no fishing" signs in nearby lakes.

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Posted by Driver on 10/30/2012 at 1:43 AM

Re: “Pat Lawson

I don't think this Q&A tells us much about the Soil & Water District or what this candidate will do. If you put "Bill Cole" in the search box, his Q&A is a little more informative.

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Posted by Driver on 10/30/2012 at 1:36 AM

Re: “2012 General Election Voting Guide about the one exception?

I certainly trust the Independent more than the Democratic party when it comes to politics.

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Posted by Cesar Clark on 10/27/2012 at 10:46 AM

Re: “Real Jobs NC influencing elections—again

Sounds like the private sector is stepping up to the plate.

Posted by Goaglen on 10/26/2012 at 6:23 PM

Re: “Bill Cole

I think Bill Cole gives some very informed and thoughtful answers to the questions. His opponents answers seem off the cuff and flippant. I like the fact that he is an architect, because this means he is an analytical thinker. Analytical thinkers will think through existing and future unforeseen problems with facts and empirical data, not just feelings or outside pressure.
Bill Cole will get my vote based on his answers to this questionnaire.
Thank you Indy Week for posting this candidate and other nonpartisan candidates answers to your questions. It was very helpful part of my decision making process in the less publicized races.

New Citizen of Wake County, NC

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Posted by Lisa Bruner on 10/25/2012 at 12:33 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Voting Guide

Amusing. With one exception, this was essentially the Democratic party ticket, including judicial and bond issues. Can you explain what value you provide to voters above just going to the Dem party website?

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Posted by windskisong on 10/22/2012 at 1:07 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

"Socialism is a step between a democracy and communism. "

No, Goaglen, it really isn't. We'll start with the interesting fact that Socialism is a form of economy. Democracy and Communism are forms of Government. Your statement is like saying that the Avocado is the step between a Tomato becoming an Apple. Too funny.

Second there are highly functional and very successful Democratic governments around the world with strong Socialist leanings. Many of them are beating the US economically, and most of them are destroying us as regards standings in public health, education, low levels of violence...

As pertains to the GM bailout you do realize that we actually saw a positive return to the taxpayer on that investment, right?

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Posted by Ezekiel 23:19-20 on 10/22/2012 at 8:14 AM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

Interesting tomgee. I don't see any Communists on this list at all. Are you sure you are actually reading this or simply spouting inane nonsense.

You do realize that the "Communist State of California" has the 4th largest economy in the world all by itself, and that the "Fascist Republican States of America" are net debtors to the US economy relying on the Democratic states to support them, right? You didn't know that? Well...that explains your moronic posts then.

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Posted by Ezekiel 23:19-20 on 10/22/2012 at 8:03 AM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

Well, Roger Dodger, I have a feeling you would be hard pressed to put together a coherent knock-knock joke, so it really isn't a surprise.

You fail to put together a rational rebuttal to the endorsements and instead resort to foolish partisan nonsense. How droll. *gently pats their pointy little head*

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Posted by Ezekiel 23:19-20 on 10/22/2012 at 8:02 AM

Re: “Sally Kost

Want to see how Sally treats businesses? Watch the video. Pay close attention to the graphs. During Sally's tenure there was a meager 1 million dollars in capital investment. Since she went in the minority, that number has jumped to 117 million.

This is how she treats her constituents. "We just did?" Sally is unethical as it comes. She also claims the BOC's relationship with the Board of Education is frayed, yet they were nominated for another award. Don't take it from me though, check out this exchange from hypocritical Randy Voller (Chatham Democratic Party Chair) and BOE chair David Hamm. Keep in mind, Sally makes this claim in her mailers, a bald faced lie if one was ever told. Read this exchange.

"Dear Board of Education:

Concerns have been raised regarding the nomination of the current Chatham County Board of Commissioners to receive the same award the Board of Commissioners received in 2009.

Now I realize that a nomination does not actually mean they will receive an award, but since all five of you are listed as Democrats and there has been some cause for concern over the past two budget cycles in Chatham County with education, would you kindly share with the leadership of the party your reasoning for nominating the current Board of Commissioners for an award by a vote of 5-0?

Please advise,

Randy Voller, chair"


Response from Board of Education Chair:

"Dear Democratic Party Chair,

It saddens me to hear that “concerns have been raised” regarding the nomination of the BOC for the annual NCSBA Commissioner’s Award. The BOE has done nothing but extend its hand in working productively with the BOC over the past year, and the BOC have been very gracious in supporting the school system in some very unique and desperate economic times.

As a member of the BOE, I for one do not see politics as part of the equation when dealing with our children, budgets, and what is best for the school system. Democrats and Republicans alike have a sworn duty to provide for the schools.

Your statement that “concerns have been raised” leads me to believe that the Democrats of Chatham County want to be at odds with the Republicans of Chatham and use the children as pawns in your political scheming. We have way too much of that going on in Washington and Raleigh for that to continue here at the local level in Chatham.

As you are probably not aware, the overall demeanor and lines of communication between the BOC and BOE have improved dramatically over the past year. If you were present at the past two budget presentation meetings between the BOE and the BOC, you would understand first hand how all five BOE members agreed upon the nomination for the award. In fact, during the budget cycle this past year, the BOC gave an additional $715,000 above the BOE budget request. The commissioners also proposed and added a 2% raise to the local supplement for the employees of the school system.

In short, from Murphy to Manteo, I dare you to find many BOC that have been able to support their BOE the way our commissioners have worked with us here in Chatham. May I remind you that due to excellent work by both the BOC and BOE administrations, Chatham County Schools has weathered this economic meltdown far better than most of the other 114 school systems across the state. We have not laid off teachers; we have not cut salaries; and we have actually been able to add back potential cuts that would have dramatically impacted our classrooms. We are still the 6th best locally funded school system in the state!

Once again, I see the responsibility of the BOE and BOC, regardless of political affiliation, to work hand in hand for providing the necessary resources for our children in Chatham to be successful. Yes, I am a registered Democrat, but if also look on the ballot, as a BOE candidate, I am “non-partisan.” I am here to serve the children of Chatham County, not a political party and its agendas.

Our agenda is to work with everyone to make Chatham County Schools the best it can be.


David M. Hamm"


The dishonest ways of the Chatham Coalition (now known as the Chatham Democratic Party) have got to stop. I know Sally reads this, and Sally, you have lost whatever credibility you thought you had. Those of us out west (not that you ever care to come and see us) are thankful for the board majorities policies, they, unlike you, do what they say and say what they mean.

Speaking of which, any proof they are Tea Party people, or is that just another dishonest label meant to invoke fear. I would be ashamed of myself, but I doubt that is in your nature. Prove that claim, if you can.

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Posted by Instant Account on 10/19/2012 at 7:52 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

A lot of ink could have been saved,,, just say VOTE D EXCEPT FOR CHERIE BERRY..

interestingly, no justification for endorsing BHO,,, I'd be hard-pressed to write a coherent argument for voting for him too,

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Posted by Roger Dodger on 10/19/2012 at 8:49 AM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

I guess I should be receiving an editorial check correct? This is about the fifth time you had to change your 'wording' to reflect the mistakes I point out.

I never even went to J school, kinda sad really. So tell me again why I should trust anything you put into print?

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Posted by Instant Account on 10/18/2012 at 7:34 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

"Instant Account" -- You are right: Cathy Wright resigned as chairwoman of the Chatham County GOP due to her House District 54 candidacy. The text has been corrected.

Posted by Denise Prickett, Indy Editorial Web Director on 10/18/2012 at 6:53 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

Why not just put a capital "D" in the article and let it be?
I think what tomgee meant was socialist.
"a public collective ownership or control of the basic means of production, distribution, and exchange with the avowed aim of operating for use rather than profit, and of assuring to each member of society an equitable share of goods, services, and welfare benefits" Funk & Wagnalls Company, 1963.
What would you call public ownership of GM stock? Or of the other companies receiving bail out monies? Of our welfare programs which have become pervasive and ubiquitous?
Socialism is a step between a democracy and communism. Mr. Gee must have assumed this future step. We are a democracy in name only, a social democracy in truth, and in violation of our basic social contract by this "progressive" momentum.
The Reds are coming in response to this inequity, but not the communist ones.

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Posted by Goaglen on 10/18/2012 at 6:22 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

Cathy Wright is also not GOP chairwoman, that would be Jim Duncan. Don't let a little thing like research get in the way.

Lining for my hamster cage.

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Posted by Instant Account on 10/18/2012 at 5:27 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Endorsements

We would have preferred not have to endorsed in the labor commissioner at all; as we said, we didn't like either candidate, and Berry is not a good labor commissioner.
However, historically the Indy has endorsed in all races with very few exceptions. And when we've done so, we've been equally criticized for withholding endorsements.

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Posted by Lisa Sorg, INDY Editor on 10/18/2012 at 2:58 PM

Re: “2012 General Election Voting Guide

Just a data point: I almost lost my vote last year because I had my phone out in the booth. The lady finally relented, though.

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Posted by Michael Byers on 10/18/2012 at 12:54 PM

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