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Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

And one more note. Since you said that your board was deeply split on Clinton/Sanders maybe the smart and ethical thing would have been to endorse no one and explain the pros and cons of both?

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Posted by Marty Rosenbluth on 03/03/2016 at 6:48 PM

Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

It is perhaps ironic, although telling, that on the same day the Indy endorses Hillary Clinton that Berta Cáceres, a Honduran environment and human rights activist, was murdered in her bed. Clinton, when she was Secretary of State, made the coup that brought Cáceres' murderers into power possible. While the Indy is of course entitled to its own opinion, it is not entitled to its own facts. Where does the Indy get its "fact" that HRC worked to pull the White House to the left? Is the Indy totally unaware of the dark history of the Democratic Leadership Council and Hillary's role in it? Are they unaware that she was selected to be the main voice of conservative Democrats when she was in the Senate? She was, she is and she always will be a pro-corporate hawk.

For the first time in my life I finally have the opportunity to vote for someone rather than against someone. Bernie Sanders is that candidate. For the first time I don't have to hold my nose when I walk into a voting booth. Hillary is no different than all the pro-corporate, pro-military right wing Dems than have come before her.

As for your final argument that it is time to put a woman in charge, I agree. But Hillary is not that woman. If you think Hillary is good for women, I am sure Berta Cáceres would disagree. Remember Margaret Thatcher?

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Posted by Marty Rosenbluth on 03/03/2016 at 6:44 PM

Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

Super disappointed in the defeatest mentality in endorsing Hillary Clinton. I've always come to the Indy for progressive guidance, not political opportunism.

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Posted by emkirk on 03/03/2016 at 5:03 PM

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Why no stated position on the Connect NC Public Improvement Bond? It was originally supposed to be a transportation infrastructure but has morphed into giving money to the the University of North
Carolina System, the North Carolina Community College System, water and sewer
systems, the State's National Guard, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, attractions and parks, and the Department of Public Safety to build new facilities. I'd be interested to hear what the Indy thinks about the switch in purpose for the bond funds and whether or not it is worth voting for.

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Posted by Roy B. on 03/03/2016 at 4:20 PM

Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

Why the Critics of Bernienomics Are Wrong
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 2, 2016
"Not a day goes by, it seems, without the mainstream media bashing Berney Sanders’s economic plan – quoting certain economists as saying his numbers don’t add up. (The New York Times did it again just yesterday.) They’re wrong. You need to know the truth, and spread it. "
http://robertreich.org/post/140353623180

ROBERT B. REICH is Chancellor’s Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior Fellow at the Blum Center for Developing Economies. He served as Secretary of Labor in the Clinton administration, for which Time Magazine named him one of the ten most effective cabinet secretaries of the twentieth century. He endorsed Bernie Sanders.

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Posted by Noah on 03/03/2016 at 2:54 PM

Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

DNC Chair: Super-delegates (as opposed to Pledged delegates) "exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists."

Currently, Clinton has a 577-394 lead in pledged delegates, mostly thanks to southern states. North Carolina has 107 pledged delegates, which would close that gab substantially. Get out there and vote. If we can get to Democratic convention with a draw in the popular vote, if nothing else we’ll have the ammunition needed to do away with the very un-democratic Super-delegate system.

News media keeps showing Clinton’s lead with the total delegate count, but super-delegates don’t vote until July. If they split it out the pledged count, it would actually help Sanders (which is likely the reason they don’t).

Go vote!

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Posted by Whatswrongwithyou on 03/03/2016 at 2:52 PM

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At this point, perhaps Bernie should consider stooping to Hillary's level. She'll spend her first term much like her husband's last... defending one scandal after another. Bernie should mention this. Also, she's proven she's ready to play dirty. For example, in the last 10 days there have been articles, missing references, calling Sander's economic plan unworkable. However, an economist (and Clinton supporter) ran it through a standard economic model. The results? It would work. However, the press parroted the unfounded criticism verbatim. One of the critics actually recanted once he ran it through the economic modeling himself. Here is a good summary of the hit: http://billmoyers.com/story/the-sanders-economic-plan-controversy/

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Posted by Whatswrongwithyou on 03/03/2016 at 2:38 PM

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Extra Extra! The 'Indy' joins the #CorporateMedia with a stunning, super delegate-style endorsement of Clinton over Sanders. Disappointing to say the least.

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Posted by jamodei on 03/03/2016 at 2:18 PM

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Indy Week's tagline on google includes the word "progressive". Here in the Triangle, apparently even progressives are conservative. Sanders does well in actual progressive areas. Where does he struggle? The south. If you were truly progressive, you'd be for something other than a 1% deviation from the status quo. This endorsement is unfortunate and somewhat fearful.

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Posted by Whatswrongwithyou on 03/03/2016 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

I've reflected on this for a day. With your two top line endorsements you've clearly soiled yourselves. People will put a lot less weight on your down ballot endorsements and people are much less likely to clip out your slate. Based on your analysis, your endorsement should have been to mark "no preference" which is s presidential ballot choice.


You have another week to rethink this prior to your next Wednesday issue. Please do

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Posted by gercohen1 on 03/03/2016 at 1:39 PM

Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

wish you would make endorsements for Person County!

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Posted by Julie Nye on 03/03/2016 at 12:45 PM

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Thanks for the information and analysis. Don't know of anywhere else to look for such comprehensive treatment. BTW, Richard Burr makes the case for instituting term limits.

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Posted by Bernard Baruch on 03/03/2016 at 12:01 PM

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“The greatest strategic screw-up since Hitler's invasion of Russia” is how David Kilcullen describes George W Bush's invasion of Iraq in his new book "Blood Year". Put simply, Kilcullen argues we should never have gone into Iraq, with the job still unfinished in Afghanistan after 9/11. ... Like many soldiers, Kilcullen does not do gore. So when he mentions, in the sparest of prose given the depravity of the sectarian bloodletting, the “commercial kidnapping gangs auctioning off terrified children for slaughter, in a makeshift night market that operated under lights near the soccer stadium”, it is a kick in the stomach."

Hillary Clinton voted for this war, Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama voted against it. Yet, the INDY is endorsing Hillary Clinton (and Donald Trump) but leaves out Bernie Sanders. Apparently, the INDY does not feel this "kick in the stomach", it does not feel the enormous human tragedy that the war in Iraq has inflicted on hundred thousands of people to this day.. Choosing Hillary Clinton only for this edition's cover next to her endorsement casts doubt on the INDY's judgment and independence. Sad.

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Posted by Noah on 03/03/2016 at 10:36 AM

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This is appalling. I cannot believe a publication cheekily dubbed "the Indy" would endorse Hillary Clinton at this stage in the race. It may be unconscionable (if you want to argue this point with specifics, BY ALL MEANS, I would love to have a discussion about the concrete ethical implications at stake), as an editorial body that claims to serve the public and progressive causes, to endorse a candidate who has actively opposed progressive policy for much of her career. I am a progressive feminist (yes, a woman) who does not want to see Hillary Clinton in office. She does not represent me or the views and experiences of so many women I know. We deserve better, frankly. I am beyond disappointed in the content of this article as well as its flippant tone. Never stop fighting. I will no longer support your publication.

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Posted by olivbransc on 03/03/2016 at 9:54 AM

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You are mistaken about Hillary's ability to accomplish anything in the White House. Remember how much got accomplished in DC during the Lewinsky scandal? Yeah, me neither. Fair or not, she will be hamstrung by "investigation" after "investigation". As we know, it doesn't matter whether an accusation is grounded in fact or not. Just look at the "investigations" into Planned Parenthood using a piece that courts have stated are not accurate. No matter. Nothing will happen in a Clinton White House. Sad that the "Indy" wouldn't endorse the Indy candidate who is in fact more like a Democrat than Clinton.

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Posted by KWess on 03/03/2016 at 8:04 AM
Posted by ProudlyUnaffiliated on 03/03/2016 at 12:52 AM

Re: “Your Participation is Mandatory: The INDY’s 2016 Primary Endorsements

The URL you've listed in your INDY VOTING GUIDE flyer is incorrect. The CORRECT URL is www.wakegov.com/elections (NOT: wakecounty.gov/elections)

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Posted by sfivers on 03/02/2016 at 11:50 PM

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I believe everyone should take a good look at Andy Cagle for Orange County Commissioner at large. The big thing everyone is missing out on is that 3 of his ideas were adopted by the Sheriffs department. He is not even in a office position and his voice has been heard and they listened. He has the ability to affect change even though he's not in office just imagine all the greatness that could happen if he were in office. It's the ones you least expect that achieve the greatest things in life!

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Posted by OCresident on 03/02/2016 at 10:06 PM

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Hillary Clinton has studied harder--under the tutelage of Henry Kissinger.

In 2008, The Independent Weekly got it right when they rejected this war hawk, worrying about her belligerent threats against Iran and calling her "divisive, smug and, at times, even contradictory."

Very disappointing.

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Posted by Vuncannon on 03/02/2016 at 8:43 PM

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"And, yeah, while we think the world of Bernie, it's about time we had a woman in charge." This is exactly the sexist Gloria Steinem & Madeleine Albright attitude that is so upsetting for young people .. and me. On the range of "50 Shades of Gender" Mrs. Clinton is clearly gravitating towards the masculine character traits. I don't mind. I do mind that she has been constantly swaying with the wind during her political career. But what disqualifies her from becoming President is the fact that she caused death and anguish for hundred thousands of people when she voted for war when non-foreign-policy-experienced people like Obama and Sanders were brave and wise enough to vote against it.

And by the way, I find your sarcastic Donald Trump endorsement irresponsible and dangerous. Are you aware that Donald Trump would have been incarcerated in Germany after delivering his hate speeches?

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Posted by Noah on 03/02/2016 at 6:21 PM

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