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Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

What the neighbors should do is get together and apply to open a couple of junk yards, a cement plant, a shooting range, and a real factory farm with pigs. That would fix the Brewer's little red wagon. I wonder how many weddings you could have next to that stuff. lol If the county won't reign them in, the nieghbors can!

Posted by Bluetrain on 02/23/2017 at 9:52 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

Developers here in Chapel Hill and Orange county are CONSTANTLY trying to game the system. We just booted a mayor and half a town council over this kind of shenanigans. As I watch a seven story high rise one right after the other go up right beside my single family home with no road improvements.... Money talks with these folks.

Posted by Bluetrain on 02/23/2017 at 9:49 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

In response to Joseph Pepe's comment: there's nothing realistic about letting the Brewers and Southeast Property Group game the system to build their event center. Are they entrepreneurs or are they farmers? Applying for a special use permit to build an event center on property zoned for residential and farm use sounds like they're entrepreneurs. Unfortunately for them, the Board of Adjustments correctly denied the permit because the event center wasn't in harmony with the property's surroundings. So they played their next card - they somehow obtained a USDA farm number, changed their application to say they were a farm and that their $735,000 building was a utility building, not an event center, and received approval from the Orange County Planning Department. I guess that's the point where they began to identify themselves as farmers. Nobody is being sandbagged here except maybe the rural community surrounding the event center.

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Posted by sbeeman on 02/23/2017 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

The question has been raised "how many tractors are stored in the Brewer's barn?' How many tractors does it take to grow flowers, chestnut trees, or manage bee hives to produce honey? I would think you could accomplish all of that withour the use of a tractor. And how many executives who manage the many "corporate farms" live on those farms. Let's be realistic and allow the entreprenurial spirit raised by this young couple to florish and not be sandbagged. Incidentally, doubful that you will find a tractor anywhere near a "fish" farm.

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Posted by Joseph Pepe on 02/23/2017 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

So many questions come to mind after reading this article. In the photo attached to the article, the Brewers are shown watering their "orchard" with water they brought to the property. Why? Because after owning the property for two years and planting 36 chestnut trees and a small flower bed, they apparently have not yet put in a well on their property. That's right, a farm with no water for irrigating their crops. If they're primarily a farm and the wedding events are incidental to farm use, why is building the barn and booking the weddings taking priority over digging a well? Second, Chris Brewer of Southeast Property Group is quoted as saying " We could have built a barn with four poles and a roof but if we make it a little bit nicer...we can also do weddings as well." Apparently building a $735,000 barn on a quarter-million dollar property with a lighting budget of $78,000 for the chandeliers alone is what he means by a "little nicer." It just doesn't ring true that a real farmer who wants to hold weddings in their barn to supplement their farm income would spend $735,000 on building a 4200 square foot barn (including $78,000 to spend on chandeliers) the sole farming purpose of which is "to process flowers and chestnuts in the late fall." Sounds to me like "alternative facts" from the Brewers. Finally, I'm perplexed by David Owens opining that the weddings are "pretty clearly incidental" to the flower farm. The evidence that I heard presented at the October Board of Adjustment hearings (read the minutes here:…) doesn't make that clear at all, and as the article says the BOA seems to doubt that the Barn of Chapel Hill is anything other than an events center. The Orange County Planning Department believes their hands are tied because the Brewers have a USDA farm number and are thus considered a bona fide farm and exempt from zoning regulations that apply to commercial endeavors. (Why they were able to obtain a farm number for 22 acres of wooded property that they had never farmed is unclear.) But if nonfarm uses on a farm property ARE NOT exempt from county zoning rules, then common sense tells us that this $735,000 event center disguised as a utility barn on a property with farming activity that is clearly secondary should not be exempt.

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Posted by sbeeman on 02/23/2017 at 9:47 AM

Re: “Chapel Hill had to decline FEMA money to buy flood-prone condos at Camelot Village

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Posted by MelissaMueller on 02/23/2017 at 5:32 AM

Re: “Donald Trump Promised Big Bucks for Infrastructure. Could That Save Light Rail?

Light rail is a fun idea, but definitely not cost effective to build, maintain or use. The upcoming infrastructure spending is better focused on building/repairing bridges/roads that serve cars, motorcycles, and commercial buses and trucks for providing goods and services. Vote no to light rail.

Posted by alberthall on 02/22/2017 at 2:56 PM

Re: “Orange County’s Board of Adjustment to Determine Whether the So-Called Party Barn is Really Being Used as a Farm

Heh. How many tractors are stored in the Brewers "barn"? Don't Orange County farmers usually live on their farm in Orange County rather than in a high dollar subdivision in Chatham County?


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Posted by where's the beef? on 02/22/2017 at 1:37 PM

Re: “The 18-Year-Old Who Owned Richard Burr in Sunday’s N&O

I saw this ad and shared a picture on Facebook, getting positive responses from all over the country. Thanks for making activism fun again!

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Posted by Amy Trojanowski on 02/22/2017 at 1:33 PM

Re: “The 18-Year-Old Who Owned Richard Burr in Sunday’s N&O

I'm so proud of Senator Burr and Senator Tillis. But that was a clever ad.

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Posted by alberthall on 02/22/2017 at 12:42 PM

Re: “The 18-Year-Old Who Owned Richard Burr in Sunday’s N&O

ROCK MY WORLD. IMO, this ad's tongue in cheek tone is precisely what is needed here. I'm so peeved I'm sure I wouldn't manage a needed message such as this. BRAVA, Ms. Johnson!

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Posted by Haditupta on 02/22/2017 at 9:49 AM

Re: “The Trump Administration Takes Aim at Transgender Kids

Gavin Grimm is from Gloucester County, Virginia. He is not from New Jersey. The Gloucester County school board involved is not a New Jersey school board.

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Posted by Jamie 2 on 02/16/2017 at 6:28 PM

Re: “Will the NCAA’s Threat Force the Legislature to Reconsider HB 2?

As a North Carolinian I would like to add that myself and pretty much everyone I have talked to support the portions of the bill related to transgenders even if they do not think the bill as a whole is good for the state.

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Posted by Don Pepe on 02/16/2017 at 4:20 PM

Re: “Donald Trump Promised Big Bucks for Infrastructure. Could That Save Light Rail?

The question should be do the taxpayers want to save this project? It's late and getting later, it's over budget and GoTriangle has put a "long tail" on the funding out to 2063 (yep!). With 40 at grade crossings it promises to complicate rather than relieve traffic. LRT has the history of driving costs up pushing the very people that need transit away. All this and they are cutting a new transit corridor and related development through a critical watershed and calling it "environmental".

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Posted by where's the beef? on 02/15/2017 at 9:16 PM

Re: “Donald Trump Promised Big Bucks for Infrastructure. Could That Save Light Rail?

I hope Trump doesn't waste a single penny of taxpayer money on this boondoggle. I hope this whole thing dies on the vine, where it should. Light rail "sounds cool and feels good", but to think it will reduce traffic and provide all the other pie in the sky dream stuff the proponents claim is to fall for empty promises based on extrapolations, assumptions and other fuzzy math. No thanks. Go take your show to Portland Oregon or somewhere.

And Trump is making Mexico pay for the wall by an import duty. He's really good at making others pay for stuff.

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Posted by John Trololo on 02/15/2017 at 5:03 PM

Re: “Can Progressives Turn the Moral March’s Energy into Political Action?

I was there and have never tried to count a crowd, and in spite of all my enthusiasm for the cause, I really question the 80,000 head count. Does anybody have a really scientific count to cite? I'm very curious about this. And please, I mean serious, carefully done count, not an exaggeration either way. Editors, do you have any data yourselves?

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Posted by calnordt on 02/15/2017 at 12:28 PM

Re: “Donald Trump Promised Big Bucks for Infrastructure. Could That Save Light Rail?

Donald Trump made many grandiose promises. Some, like Mexico paying for the wall, were blatantly hollow from the start. Lying for him is involuntary. It occurs without requiring thought or effort. And sadly he is apparently incapable of keeping up with his own lies as evidenced by his staunch insistence he didn't say something that he has been recorded on tape saying. And he obviously has no concept of infrastructure. Look at the chaos in his own inner circle. They are falling over themselves in their haste to improve their economic status, shove their draconian tenets down our throats, and poke everyone in the eye who is of no monetary value to them. It is sick, sad, pathetic, and unfortunately, our reality.

If you are looking to Donald as a savior for light rail you are barking up the wrong tree. The only thing he can be counted on to do is to privatize Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare (and any other program with an accessible bank account) and then suck every red cent out of the accounts. That way there is no moral aspect to it. They can say it wasn't personal, it was simply business. The court appointed presidency of Bush siphoned our bank accounts and now Trump has his sights on our retirement accounts. But don't take my word for it. Just sit back and watch.

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Posted by DR B on 02/15/2017 at 12:23 PM

Re: “Welcome to the Resistance: Trump Is President, But Trumpism Can Never Prevail

Before the election, the progressives all said that everyone else should "unite" and come on board after Hillary would win the election. When she lost, the progressives became the most divisive and hateful group our country has seen in a long time. They said Trump should not question the results when Hillary would win, yet the progressives all have questioned the election results, threatened the President and non-progressives, and liberals now are harassing and threatening even moderates and progressives (like me) who support Trump. White people are being mugged by minority groups and then accused of racism. What a bunch of hypocrites in the "new liberal" movement.

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Posted by Rational 1 on 02/14/2017 at 3:13 PM

Re: “Meet the Triangle Refugees Who Donald Trump Believes Pose a Threat to the United States

Stop lying, if you want to be a journalist. Trump is not banning refugees, and this kind of exaggeration is why liberals have lost power. The "ban" is a 90-day time period to improve the vetting of people from seven known terrorist countries. It does not affect green card holders, and there are many exceptions. Europe has almost daily attacks from "refugees" and it's a known fact that ISIS and other jihadi groups are hiding their people among the refugees. Liberals and Progressives are the ones splitting the country apart with their lies and false news like this article.

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Posted by Rational 1 on 02/14/2017 at 3:05 PM

Re: “After an Incident at Rolesville High, Activists Wonder if Schools Need Cops

When, in the name of god and all that is holy, WHEN is the time when you are supposed to see this in high school [from the story above]:
a young African-American girl in a pink shirt rises above her classmates before she's thrown like a rag doll to the floor
Was she killing someone? Did she have an AR-15 rifle, or sawing off a head with a tree saw? Because if she wasn't, that is the most onerous over-reaction I have ever witnessed.
First show children love and respect. After they are 18, start in on America's institutionalized racist "justice system" where 1 in 3 African American males will go to prison, 1 in 20 whites.
Should we start this injustice in Kindergarten? Lock those little black babies up when they misbehave!
God help us. This is insanity. I wish they'd let me help out at these schools with these bad kids, but since I WAS a bad kid, I would never be allowed, just like the only people who know what it means to be sentenced to prison--a convicted convict--is never allowed to serve on a jury, after I answer the mandatory "have you ever been convicted of a felony?" question, I'm usually 100% so far, out of the running to help any children. Even though it's been 25 years since I've committed a crime, I've since helped to raise a wonderful PhD daughter, and gotten my master's degree, and lived a good taxpayer's life. I was scared straight, but I'm not allowed to show anyone with whom i am not related by blood the lessons I have learned. Don't lock up children. #1

Posted by Shawn1960 on 02/12/2017 at 7:37 PM

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