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Comment Archives: Stories: Elections: Election Results

Re: “On a dark day for N.C., Amendment 1 passes

It was a sad day indeed--and I regret that those of us against Amendment One were not able to get people to understand what they were really voting into law. I kept wondering why the messages against it were so vague when so much was at stake. I think the civil unions issue should have been pushed harder--sure, the motive behind this hateful legislation was primarily ant-gay, but the goal was to defeat it, right?

And it was all about religion. Christianity, to be specific. The anti-amendment volunteers worked SO hard to defeat this, and a lot of money was donated for the cause--but ignorant, bigoted Christian fundamentalism won again in NC. It's time for Christian liberals to stop saying "Well, we're not like that" or "they misinterpret the bible"--and start fighting back against hate in the name of Jesus.

You nailed it with this analysis, Bob. Thanks so much--a keeper for discussions on future strategy.

3 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by beautdogs on 05/11/2012 at 8:04 AM

Re: “Relieved and jubilant, Kleinschmidt basks in win

I disagree that the Chapel Hill election revealed a 50/50 division. While the mayoral race as about 50/50, the council races showed voters supporting a predominantly progressive slate. I believe that Kleinschmidt's campaign did not aggressively refute the simplistic and quasi-factual statements that Matt Cz made during the race & paid the price when some of these assumptions began to be accepted conventional wisdom. A well-run campaign that cleaned up the issues instead of letting mold grow would have resulted in more like a 60/40 split.

Posted by marcoplos on 11/04/2009 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Relieved and jubilant, Kleinschmidt basks in win

Braineyson- thank you, it's been corrected

Posted by Denise, Indy Editorial Web Director on 11/04/2009 at 9:03 AM

Re: “Relieved and jubilant, Kleinschmidt basks in win

"She was quick to credit the voter owned elections pilot program, having said before that she felt she needed to win to violate it." I think she said "validate" not "violate." Must be a typo. Can you fix this?

Posted by Braineyson on 11/04/2009 at 8:18 AM

Re: “Wake schools to come apart? Will the new school board fire Del Burns?

Hey MentalRectangle,

That story is 5 YEARS old, and our graduation rate is now what, 55%? From 67 to 55 is a 17.9% reduction.

GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!

Posted by ammcat on 10/28/2009 at 4:50 PM

Re: “Wake schools to come apart? Will the new school board fire Del Burns?

"According to Forbes Magazine, the Wake County School System ranked third in the nation and Mecklenburg County came in ninth on its Top Ten List for The Best Education In The Biggest Cities.

The list was based on access to educational resources, affordability of housing, and high school graduation rate. The 100 largest school districts in the most populous cities in the country, as determined by the U.S. Census Bureau, were examined by the magazine. 10 school districts that score best in all three categories were then selected."

So yes actually wake county schools are pretty good now that you asked.

Posted by mentalrectangle on 10/16/2009 at 6:19 PM

Re: “Cole-McFadden and Clement take top votes in Durham

Durham Municipal Candidates Forum
Free & Open to the Public
Sunday October 18th 3:00 PM
Location: The Forest at Duke Clubhouse
2701 Pickett Road Durham, NC 27705

Hear candidates running for Durham City Council speak about their background, qualifications and priorities.
Ask them questions about issues that are important to you.

FORMAT: Candidates will be given 2 minutes to present their credentials and platform. Our moderator will then solicit questions from the audience. This means the majority of the program will be hearing candidates respond to your questions about whats important to you.

This is an ideal setting to evaluate the candidates firsthand and learn about their vision for Durham.

Posted by Durham Dave on 10/13/2009 at 7:50 PM

Re: “Wake schools to come apart? Will the new school board fire Del Burns?

You have got to be kidding me.

We have one of the highest dropout rates in the country and you are telling me we have a great school system?

You cannot possibly believe Raleigh has a better school system then other urban areas.

Get over the denial and get with the program. We need to make fundamental changes to improve the school system.

You must ask yourself - How are you going to make a difference? It's up to us.

Posted by ammcat on 10/09/2009 at 9:36 PM

Re: “Wake schools to come apart? Will the new school board fire Del Burns?

Fair to say that in addition to concerns about diversity versus neighborhood schools, this week's election was also a referendum on the popularity of WCPSS administration -- issues like Wednesday early release and the manner in which year-round schools are implemented. I'm pro-diversity but I do believe there is fair reason to criticize WCPSS administration for other reasons. Wouldn't surprise me if the house is indeed cleaned, and perhaps it's time.

Posted by ct on 10/08/2009 at 11:13 AM

Re: “Raleigh Council: Crowder crushes Van Dyk in “D”; Odom ousts Koopman in “B”

Meeker gets 62% of the vote when he had basically no credible opposition. Get ready for change, folks.

Posted by ct on 10/08/2009 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Wake schools to come apart? Will the new school board fire Del Burns?

Ger -- No doubt. I was just asked the question whether Ron Margiotta and the new school board have a mandate. If last night wasn't a mandate, I'm not sure what a mandate would look life. But the issue remains, is it a mandate for change and striking a different balance between "neighborhood schools" and "diversity" across the school system. Or is it a mandate for a radical re-make of policy that throws the baby out with the bath water?

I doubt I'm the first to say these words today, but maybe I'll be the first to write them down in public: The new majority, unless they want to be seen as radicals, should consider that tried-and-true Wake County solution, the "Blue Ribbon Commission."

Just like with the Special Transit Advisory Commission, on which you served, and the county's Blue Ribbon Commission on growth, the issue of how to make progress now in the schools is one that requires a little patience and some meeting of the minds, NOT one suitable for the slash-and-burn tactics favored by some in the Republican Party.

IMHO, of course.

Posted by bob geary, indy staff writer on 10/07/2009 at 4:10 PM

Re: “Wake schools to come apart? Will the new school board fire Del Burns?

I live in one of the suburban districts. From talking to neighbors and coworkers, I can tell you that the school board had lost support and that many parents felt that the school board was not listening when it made decisions on issues like year round school and even such mundane issues like the new Wednesday early release policy implemented this year.

Posted by gercohen on 10/07/2009 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Wake schools to come apart? Will the new school board fire Del Burns?

Here is hoping that they do clean house. Burns has been a DISASTER. Support for the schools has eroded under his tenure to the point where people are fleeing for private schools at record rates. Graduation rates of at risk students have fallen every year. Gang activity is up. Teacher retention is down.

He has failed and whether you agree with his stance on certain issues or not, the election yesterday is a reflection of those failures. It is time for new leadership. One that will start by bringing public confidence back.

Posted by Apex Rich on 10/07/2009 at 8:40 AM

Re: “Election Night along I-85

a great story that seems to have really captured the feeling of the night. very funny about all TVs at wal-mart tuned into football. love the photo too.

Posted by friendofafriend on 11/14/2008 at 11:35 AM

Re: “Young voters turned N.C. blue

Thanks for this article. Obama ran a magnificent campaign in NC, and all the Democrats elected should be thankful for the support it generated down the ticket. But I am most impressed with how he personally inspired the devotion of young people in a a way I recall from my youth, when John F. Kennedy ran for office. We need to work to continue to keep these young folk involved in politics and government.

Posted by mbrock49 on 11/12/2008 at 4:17 PM

Re: “Long faces and a short night at the N.C. GOP party

Wow, how embarrassing for Rachel Boyd that this is her comment on such an historic event, captured for posterity. Ah, the mistakes we make when we're young and foolish.

Posted by JohnD on 11/07/2008 at 9:46 AM

Re: “Long faces and a short night at the N.C. GOP party

"Ruin it for democracy." ??!! Honey -- this WAS democracy in action. You can't just be for democracy when it comes to voters who look and act just like you. You're kind of missing a fundamental point there -- get thee to a political science class!

Posted by Durham Dave on 11/07/2008 at 8:41 AM

Re: “"We've got a president who looks like us"

rec pretty well nailed it, but let me further amplify that TC you are completely out to lunch on your comments. McCain lost because they catered only to fear-mongers like yourself. Instead of highlighting the things John McCain WOULD do, they instead tried to strike fear into the hearts of white America by telling us Obama has ties to terrorists (like Bill Ayers) and hates white people (like Jeremiah Wright) and hates America (because he doesn't wear a flag pin). But fear is a horrible motivator in national campaigns. It didn't work when the dems tried it in 2004 (remember "Anybody But Bush!!"?) and it didn't work in 2008. Btw, I was also in the military and I did vote for him. I would have probably voted for McCain over Hilary, Dodd, or definitely Kucinich, but Obama impressed me with his poise, his answers during the debate, and just flat out common sense. The McCain campaign did not impress me.

Posted by JohnD on 11/06/2008 at 4:47 PM

Re: “Obama wins N.C. by a sliver

As of 2:30 on 11/6/2008, Fox News is calling North Carolina for Obama.

Posted by JohnD on 11/06/2008 at 1:46 PM

Re: “Hagan defeats Dole: A win for godless Americans?

Dole lost because she tried to go negative and she did it poorly. Let me share in brief the evolution of my vote.

The Evolution of This Election

In the summer when I first contemplated who I would vote for it was my intent to vote for McCain, Dole, and McCrory. I voted for McCain back in the primaries in 2000 and I've always been a fan of McCain. Especially since McCain is pro-nuclear power and I'm very pro-nuclear power and McCain and I agree on immigration (mostly). But I was really hoping he'd pick Huckabee as his VP. While I disagree with Huckabee on some key issues he really impressed me as a man of integrity. Instead he went with Palin. Ok, I don't know anything about Palin, but McCain's always impressed me in the past so I'll give her a fair shot. My first introduction to here was Katie Couric's interview. I was underwhelmed. I became undecided. Then the more I listened to the campaigns, what I heard was Obama presenting a plan about what he would do with taxes, healthcare, Medicare, Iraq, etc. What I heard from the other side was Obama is scary! Bill Ayers! Obama will ruin this country! Obama's preacher is crazy!! Obama's a socialist! Obama doesn't know what he's doing!! BE VERY AFRAID OF OBAMA!!! Ok, fear is a motivator, but it's a poor one when the threat isn't immediate. You tell someone there's a guy on the other side of that door with a gun then they'll be motivated. You tell them there might be a guy on the other side of that door who might have a gun in a few months maybe, they won't be so motivated. I genuinely think this is why Kerry lost in 2004, because the Democrats tried so hard to get people to vote AGAINST Bush ("Anybody But Bush!"), instead of voting FOR John Kerry. So then I decided I'd probably vote for Obama, Dole, and McCrory. When I first heard the Dole ad I thought that sewed up for me, cause I "heard" Kay Hagan say "There is no God." So I was definitely going Obama, Dole, and McCrory. And then I come to find out, that even though it's Kay Hagan's picture on the screen and a women's voice, that wasn't Kay Hagan saying that. Ok, that's just sleazy. But on top of being sleazy, it's stupid and deceitful. Anyone who would think that was a legitimate tactic has no place in my government.

So that's how I ended up voting. Obama, Hagan, McCrory. Sorry you lost Pat, I really thought you were the better candidate. Maybe if Dole hadn't pissed so many people off, you'd have won.

Posted by JohnD on 11/06/2008 at 1:32 PM

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