Be careful people. Many times people that actually WORK at these companies scan the internet constantly looking for threads like this. I, myself, have used Sevin Dust for years on our yards. We live in a very hot and humid climate here in Dallas, Texas. I have never seen any negative affects on our animals. We have five dogs and three cats. However, be careful.
I don't suppose that the author ever considered being a responsible pet owner. You should keep your dog in your own yard, and never let it run around unsupervised. My neighbors let their dog run all over the neighborhood. I've asked them if they hate their dog. You never know what will happen to them. Mean people could hit them or otherwise terrorize them. They can get into anything, and, like this story exemplifies, you won't know how to help them. Obviously this dog was an annoyance to the neighbors garden. Take responsibility for your own stupidity, and take better care of your pet! For that matter, be a better neighbor too!
Anita Guinness. A few things.
The fact that the neighbors came by and asked if it was ok to set off fireworks...and being told that she would rather NOT have them do just that...for them to do it anyways is beyond me. It's simply not right. It would be "DECENT" as you say, for them to refrain from such things, otherwise, why ask?
Secondly, just because YOUR pets lived long and fruitful lives in the midst of such poisons, doesn't mean other animals would be so lucky. Now, I'm not saying BAN such substances...but I will say your lack of compassion, in this matter, is indecent to say the least.
I agree with your point about people's self-righteousness these days. I think that it's the owner's responsibility to do what's best for their pets. Your assumption that it takes "so much" of this substance to cause harm to an animal is basically your ignorance to how chemicals work in the body. Every living thing reacts to everything differently. Again, please don't misread me...I agree that it was HER responsibility.
All I ask is that you, just like the author in some ways, get off your soapbox and have a little compassion for the animal, as WELL as the author for almost losing her loved one. Generally, people like you disgust me.
Sue, I'm so glad she's ok and if it was my Livy, I would have done the SAME THING. Dogs are our children..."some" people just don't have any compassion these days.
I am shocked by how inconsiderate and narrow-minded this author is. To begin with, Sevin dust would have to be ingested in quite large quantities to have done close to this level of harm to your animal. I, as my father before me, use this very dust in our gardens constantly, and we have always had animals around. They have all lived to ripe, old ages. Your assumption is based on nothing but speculation and a clear desire to lay blame on other's doorsteps. Your comment about "seething" because another family did not forgo celebrating a holiday in the way they chose because YOUR elderly dog was not well...that shows an incredible amount on selfishness on your part only. Our dogs are also afraid of fireworks, as are vast majority of canines. Each year we take the dog in, give Benadryl according to our vet's instructions, and run fans as background white noise to help cover the sounds. We don't go around asking other people to alter their lifestyle and not enjoy themselves because WE chose to have pets.
The fact that these people agreed to stop using what they previously chose as an insecticide because of their paranoid neighbor's wishes shows they have far more consideration than you do.
If you are so concerned with all these toxic things to your pets ,then it is YOUR responsibility to build a larger fence, brick wall, bubble, whatever barrier that you would deem environmentally acceptable to keep out the world in general. I suppose this comes off as less than charitable but really, have some common decency. I come across more and more people each year that are full self-righteousness against everyone, bully others until they agree with a certain wild point of view, and never stop to analyze their own actions or words. Clearly you care about your dogs, which shows decency. I would imagine you have some good overall qualities but being a good neighbor, an open-minded person, and an objective writer are not among them.
For fleas and ticks: Brewers yeast or 1/8 tsp of garlic a day on their food. ( only 1/8 of garlic cause any more can be harmful and only for dogs, do not give garlic to cats.)
For the immune system: Coconut oil everyday on their food. It makes their food taste better and it is amazing for their system.
Their are an abundance of plants that keep away pests that you can put in your garden without using harmful chemicals. We just lost two chihuahua's because we thought it was rabies with the first one and later when the second one was too far gone, we found out it was poisoning. You may scoff at this woman's passion about organic things, but with a little work and not that much cash you can build a greenhouse, plant an abundance of things that can be used anywhere.
-Lemon juice and water keeps those huge roaches out of your house during the summer.
-Coconut oil is a natural, diaper rash ointment, sun block and sun tanner, immune booster if ingested, conditioner, works better than aloe for sunburns, cleans the bacteria out of your mouth every morning if swished for 20 minutes, etc.......
-Chewing on onion helps get rid of tooth pain instantly
This is just a fraction of the things i have found so far (and tried) that works wonders. Give some of this a try, it can be cheaper than buy expensive and chemically laden things at the store when you can use things that, for the most part, you can grow.
do people still use sevin dust on chickens to treat red mite - I have a big problem with red mite
I have used Sevin Spray for years for treatment of insects in my lawn and to prevent moles (which eat them). I have had three dogs over the years without one bit of trouble. I doubt these reported cases were due to Sevin at all.
You have to read on the package of these produsct you have to water after applying them and you have to not let animal or human near them till it is dry. You have to read the package of everything before using and if it is meant to kill it does just that.
DIRECTIONS FOR USE
Shake container before using
Apply when air is calm
Wear gloves when applying
Dust lightly to cover leaves with a thin, even film of dust
Apply at the furthest corner and work backward
Do not use on large trees
Do not use indoors
Do not repeat applications more than once per week (7 days)
Do not allow people or pets to enter treated area until dust has settled
You have to be responsible when using this and USE AS DIRECTED.
Now why on earth would I waste my time trying to educate you when you already managed to get the proof that you asked for deleted and have the other account deleted?
Censorship -- The last bastion of any completely proved-false and failed religion -- like TNR.
See? I STILL win! Thanks for proving everything I said is 100% true. Censorship is ALL you have left to your failed goals in life.
Sounds like somebody's didn't read the disclaimer. "Please do not copy and paste the full text of a press release."
I challenge the previous poster to provide any verifiable instances of their so-called feral cat 'hoarding' in Wake County - or even in the entirety of North Carolina. Something they fail to mention is that when cats are spayed/neutered, they are also tattooed as well as clipped - so it is fairly easy to tell if a captured animal has been fixed.
As for the rest of their claims - the burden of proof is on the person making the outrageous allegations.
Great stories all, but my favorite of the bunch has to be Baxter's. I read it the first time last night while waiting for a table at Fiesta Grill and my girlfriend and I laughed about it for the rest of the night. It sounded EXACTLY like something Tonka (my almost-10-year-old black Lab mix) would do in similar circumstances. What a howl!
The TNR CON-GAME
FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.
FACT: Trap & Sterilize (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue the cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today -- FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague -- Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)
FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR'ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock's offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats' Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn't begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn't going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member's pocket, veterinarian's pocket, cat-food company CEO's pocket, or a drug-company CEO's pocket. And that's the ONLY difference!
FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats' tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own land not long ago.)
FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2-4X's faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.
FACT: Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC have reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here's how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES' deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can't even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.
FACT: When researching over 100 of the most "successful" TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon's 50,000 TNR'ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. <0.4% is a far cry from the required 80%-90% to be the least bit effective.
FACT: Their mythical "vacuum effect" is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived "vacuum" is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there's no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own land. ZERO cats replaced them FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats' resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of "vacuum effect" at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.
FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being -- IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!
Two days ago I used Sevin spray on my new tiny garden. I carefully sprayed the leaves and nothing more. The next day my three year old St. Bernard dog which weighs 105 lbs struggled to climb the stairs from her basement bedroom. She came upstairs and promptly layed down on the floor. She cried and slept all day. She continued to struggle for about 24 hours. Neither of us had a good night. Today she is better. I had no idea this could happen. Watching her struggle made me sick and sad. She quivered off and on. It looked like a small seizure. I hope these comments help.
My father has worked for years In the Golf Course business. He teaches Golf Course Operations at Florida Gateway College, therefore he is well educated in pesticides and their effects. I myself have gained a pretty proficient knowledge on the subject from growing up around it for years, and working in the landscaping business myself. The fact is, Sevin is a pesticide that is meant to kill insects and invertebrates. It is eliminated fairly quickly out of the system of vertebrates, BUT it large quantities or concentrated, it can make anything really sick. It is easily breathed in, and animals like dogs will lick it off themselves. It is a poor treatment for fleas because of this reason. And, it kills honey bees in massive numbers. The best resolution for fleas is an IGR, an insect growth regulator. It prevents juvenile fleas from reaching sexual maturity, and laying the next generation of eggs. It is much safer, and less harmful for beneficial bugs. You can also use a spreader to treat larger ares with Over and Out, which every hardware store sells. It will kill the fleas almost immediately.
I have four yorkies and two days ago I put sevin dust in the yard to kill the fleas and now two of my dogs have been having vomiting and diarrhea. Since they don't go outside unless we are present and have had nothing else new in their diet or the environment nor have they been anywhere to catch something contagious I wonder if some dogs are sensitive to sevin dust and others are not. For years I have used sevin dust on my cats with no ill affect, but I won't be using sevin dust anymore just in case. I also use frontline but since I live in the deep south of Alabama (the flea capital of the world) we are constantly battling fleas. I will have to find something else that is safer than sevin dust. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.
Wow. What a wonderful edition. In the essay "For my boy Toby" I fell to pieces. Although I now have a boy called Toby this rang true for my first dog that was my own dog, Max. Max picked me from the breeder and from that time on we were like a married couple for the next 13 years. We loved the beach, he loved muddy ponds, me not so much.
When it came time to help him with his cancer and pain I did just about everything in the story. Took him for his last walk. A walk that usually takes 15 minutes took 2 hours. We missed 2 appointments with the vet. My partner both times coming to check on me and Max. We always went to the pond at the top of the road.
When it came time to go I thought I had gotten strong and was able to do it. Boy was I wrong. We got to the vet and the vet shaved the leg. I just looked at my boy and said I can't do it. He looked up and licked me on the face as if to say "it's ok, I love you and you can go".
It took me 4 tries to get through the whole story and it's taken me a good while to write this. Maybe this is my ode to my Max.
Ruth, thanks for asking. We'll have an update in our August 3 Dog Days of Summer issue.
What is the current status of this rescue? Has the state followed up on its' last inspection? Was the September deadline met? If not, were their threats enforced? It has been a year since the last inspection was filed and I don't see any updated articles about this anywhere.
I've been using Sevin dust on my dogs for over 25 years with no ill effects. It sounds like the OP is a bit over the top with her disdain for anything that isn't "organic".
That said, sorry your dog got sick but glad it got better.
My dog's head started experiencing tremors (left- to right) for about 20 seconds the other night. She was also sticking her tongue in and out repeatedly like she was licking her upper lip. It was the first time I'd seen her do this. She's 2 years old and otherwise appears healthy to me. she's not been vaccinated (I live in Kiribati so no vaccinations available) so after researching online I came up with an armchair diagnosis of distemper.
Then I researched some more and read that tremors can be caused by poisoning and I realised that I'd seen a bunch of fleas on her about 10 minutes before I noticed the tremors and I applied a whole lot of flea powder on her and on her bed.
I've just investigated the active ingredients of the powder I use (called 'Watch Dog Flea Powder' purchased in an Australian supermarket) which is Carbaryl (50g/kg). I also noticed that it also went out of date 5 years ago. Now I find it's a poisonous chemical (I found this link particularly useful http://www.springerlink.com/content/t28530…). I inherrited the powder from a friend who purchased it in a supermarket, so I assumed it was ok. Also assuming flea powder was benign, I didn't bother checking the use-by date.
When I applied it, I put quite a lot around her neck, ears, bum, underside - where she experiences lots of fleas - and she also sniffed and licked it quite a lot. As there are not vets in this country, I can't verify what's wrong with her. One possibility is that I unknowingly poisoned her with this flea powder. I notice another side-effect of this poisoning in dogs is salivation - hence, potentially the reason she was licking her lips. While this is not good, it's def.preferable to distemper - I'm hoping my untrained diagnosis is correct.
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