You have to read on the package of these produsct you have to water after applying them and you have to not let animal or human near them till it is dry. You have to read the package of everything before using and if it is meant to kill it does just that.
DIRECTIONS FOR USE
Shake container before using
Apply when air is calm
Wear gloves when applying
Dust lightly to cover leaves with a thin, even film of dust
Apply at the furthest corner and work backward
Do not use on large trees
Do not use indoors
Do not repeat applications more than once per week (7 days)
Do not allow people or pets to enter treated area until dust has settled
You have to be responsible when using this and USE AS DIRECTED.
Now why on earth would I waste my time trying to educate you when you already managed to get the proof that you asked for deleted and have the other account deleted?
Censorship -- The last bastion of any completely proved-false and failed religion -- like TNR.
See? I STILL win! Thanks for proving everything I said is 100% true. Censorship is ALL you have left to your failed goals in life.
Sounds like somebody's didn't read the disclaimer. "Please do not copy and paste the full text of a press release."
I challenge the previous poster to provide any verifiable instances of their so-called feral cat 'hoarding' in Wake County - or even in the entirety of North Carolina. Something they fail to mention is that when cats are spayed/neutered, they are also tattooed as well as clipped - so it is fairly easy to tell if a captured animal has been fixed.
As for the rest of their claims - the burden of proof is on the person making the outrageous allegations.
Great stories all, but my favorite of the bunch has to be Baxter's. I read it the first time last night while waiting for a table at Fiesta Grill and my girlfriend and I laughed about it for the rest of the night. It sounded EXACTLY like something Tonka (my almost-10-year-old black Lab mix) would do in similar circumstances. What a howl!
The TNR CON-GAME
FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.
FACT: Trap & Sterilize (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue the cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today -- FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague -- Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)
FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR'ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock's offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats' Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn't begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn't going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member's pocket, veterinarian's pocket, cat-food company CEO's pocket, or a drug-company CEO's pocket. And that's the ONLY difference!
FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats' Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats' tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own land not long ago.)
FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2-4X's faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.
FACT: Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC have reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here's how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES' deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can't even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.
FACT: When researching over 100 of the most "successful" TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon's 50,000 TNR'ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. <0.4% is a far cry from the required 80%-90% to be the least bit effective.
FACT: Their mythical "vacuum effect" is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived "vacuum" is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there's no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own land. ZERO cats replaced them FOR OVER 2 YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats' resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of "vacuum effect" at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.
FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being -- IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!
Two days ago I used Sevin spray on my new tiny garden. I carefully sprayed the leaves and nothing more. The next day my three year old St. Bernard dog which weighs 105 lbs struggled to climb the stairs from her basement bedroom. She came upstairs and promptly layed down on the floor. She cried and slept all day. She continued to struggle for about 24 hours. Neither of us had a good night. Today she is better. I had no idea this could happen. Watching her struggle made me sick and sad. She quivered off and on. It looked like a small seizure. I hope these comments help.
My father has worked for years In the Golf Course business. He teaches Golf Course Operations at Florida Gateway College, therefore he is well educated in pesticides and their effects. I myself have gained a pretty proficient knowledge on the subject from growing up around it for years, and working in the landscaping business myself. The fact is, Sevin is a pesticide that is meant to kill insects and invertebrates. It is eliminated fairly quickly out of the system of vertebrates, BUT it large quantities or concentrated, it can make anything really sick. It is easily breathed in, and animals like dogs will lick it off themselves. It is a poor treatment for fleas because of this reason. And, it kills honey bees in massive numbers. The best resolution for fleas is an IGR, an insect growth regulator. It prevents juvenile fleas from reaching sexual maturity, and laying the next generation of eggs. It is much safer, and less harmful for beneficial bugs. You can also use a spreader to treat larger ares with Over and Out, which every hardware store sells. It will kill the fleas almost immediately.
I have four yorkies and two days ago I put sevin dust in the yard to kill the fleas and now two of my dogs have been having vomiting and diarrhea. Since they don't go outside unless we are present and have had nothing else new in their diet or the environment nor have they been anywhere to catch something contagious I wonder if some dogs are sensitive to sevin dust and others are not. For years I have used sevin dust on my cats with no ill affect, but I won't be using sevin dust anymore just in case. I also use frontline but since I live in the deep south of Alabama (the flea capital of the world) we are constantly battling fleas. I will have to find something else that is safer than sevin dust. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.
Wow. What a wonderful edition. In the essay "For my boy Toby" I fell to pieces. Although I now have a boy called Toby this rang true for my first dog that was my own dog, Max. Max picked me from the breeder and from that time on we were like a married couple for the next 13 years. We loved the beach, he loved muddy ponds, me not so much.
When it came time to help him with his cancer and pain I did just about everything in the story. Took him for his last walk. A walk that usually takes 15 minutes took 2 hours. We missed 2 appointments with the vet. My partner both times coming to check on me and Max. We always went to the pond at the top of the road.
When it came time to go I thought I had gotten strong and was able to do it. Boy was I wrong. We got to the vet and the vet shaved the leg. I just looked at my boy and said I can't do it. He looked up and licked me on the face as if to say "it's ok, I love you and you can go".
It took me 4 tries to get through the whole story and it's taken me a good while to write this. Maybe this is my ode to my Max.
Ruth, thanks for asking. We'll have an update in our August 3 Dog Days of Summer issue.
What is the current status of this rescue? Has the state followed up on its' last inspection? Was the September deadline met? If not, were their threats enforced? It has been a year since the last inspection was filed and I don't see any updated articles about this anywhere.
I've been using Sevin dust on my dogs for over 25 years with no ill effects. It sounds like the OP is a bit over the top with her disdain for anything that isn't "organic".
That said, sorry your dog got sick but glad it got better.
My dog's head started experiencing tremors (left- to right) for about 20 seconds the other night. She was also sticking her tongue in and out repeatedly like she was licking her upper lip. It was the first time I'd seen her do this. She's 2 years old and otherwise appears healthy to me. she's not been vaccinated (I live in Kiribati so no vaccinations available) so after researching online I came up with an armchair diagnosis of distemper.
Then I researched some more and read that tremors can be caused by poisoning and I realised that I'd seen a bunch of fleas on her about 10 minutes before I noticed the tremors and I applied a whole lot of flea powder on her and on her bed.
I've just investigated the active ingredients of the powder I use (called 'Watch Dog Flea Powder' purchased in an Australian supermarket) which is Carbaryl (50g/kg). I also noticed that it also went out of date 5 years ago. Now I find it's a poisonous chemical (I found this link particularly useful http://www.springerlink.com/content/t28530…). I inherrited the powder from a friend who purchased it in a supermarket, so I assumed it was ok. Also assuming flea powder was benign, I didn't bother checking the use-by date.
When I applied it, I put quite a lot around her neck, ears, bum, underside - where she experiences lots of fleas - and she also sniffed and licked it quite a lot. As there are not vets in this country, I can't verify what's wrong with her. One possibility is that I unknowingly poisoned her with this flea powder. I notice another side-effect of this poisoning in dogs is salivation - hence, potentially the reason she was licking her lips. While this is not good, it's def.preferable to distemper - I'm hoping my untrained diagnosis is correct.
we use sevin dust and have several dogs and a cat. They havent had any problems being around it. I also remember my father and my hubby remembers his father dusting the dogs with it to control fleas etc. people also use it around chicken coops
the symptoms her dog had could be from alot of things. she said her dog has arthritis, if taking a drug for it like metacam, or any number of brands of nsid.. the side affects from them are the same. lethargy, back legs give out, can't walk, refuses to drink because they can't swallow. if your dog shows any of these symptoms when taking a medicine stop taking it immediately and get your dog to the vet. it is doing damage to their kidneys and could be fatal, like with my little robodog. put him into renal failure quickly. we did the iv under the skin also but didnt help the metacam had done too much damage in two weeks time.
also for the fireworks making the dog go nuts... u can get a doggy downer from the vet or use something like benadryl.. or look online for something natural you can use.. we have to use something when it storms and on the holidays... i cant expect my neighbors or the city to stop doing their celebrations but don't want my pets to shake during it.
Thank you! I read the Indy every week but this is my favorite issue of the year. Thanks for your support of local rescue groups and animals!
It seems that Dr. Hunter has a short memory. I beleive if
you check back a couple of years you'll find his Department
failed to inspect gas chambers because they 'forgot'.
I know at least one county shelter failed repeated annual
inspections for being way over the 85 degree maximum. Try
in the hundreds easily. What consequence did they suffer?
And dogs standing in their own feces and urine? You're
describing many county run shelters I've been in.
I'm not defending the Haven. Only asking the question
why is it ok for us to sanction state sponsored killing?
And yet condemn someone for at least trying to do the
I'll listen to what the State has to say when they put up
the money for all who want it to spay and neuter. Because
until then, there will only be more such facilities.
I wonder how many detractors here work for Bayer CropScience, the corporation that sells Sevin?
Insecticides are meant to kill biological organisms, insects in particular. As we are all connected through evolutionary biology (even though our physiology may differ), you simply cannot assume that something that harms one animal would be harmless for another. The precautionary principle and critical thinking should be applied to all decisions.
How many helpers does Ms. Spear have?
Instead of trying to sabotage her efforts, why not mobilize the community service spirit of local teenagers? Many have service hour requirements for h.s. graduation and this might be a fulfilling means to that end.
Strange how the person who has a phobia about chemicals has a crisis caused but them but the neighbors who use them freely didn't experience similar problems...
QUOTE "This will give animal rights groups a pretty much unfettered opportunity to harass any animal business that they want. This is a very bad law." hmmm, after that article and all you think about is about the animal rights opportunity??? I think your comment was quite heartless and typical, which is why "human error" is soooo allowed with animals...& Please Lord - Blaess the animals that are in human care, for in this world...they have no voice...THEY HAVE NO CHOICE!!!
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