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Who is Edgar Graham?

Modest Mouse frontman Isaac Brock invents a beautiful sound and an unbelievable story with side project Ugly Casanova

26 JUN 2002  •  by David Madison



Modes Mouse's Isaac Brock credits Ugly Casanova's songs to the mysterious Edgar Graham. Could it be the loud mouse himself?
Thomas Campbell
Isaac Brock, the child of working-class Christians who bounced from a hippie commune in Oregon to a "cult church" in Montana to Issaquah, Wash., where he formed the group Modest Mouse, sums up his odyssey through life and music with this remark: "I don't have a clear view of that shit man. I'm kind of in the mix. It's easier for someone from the outside to see a pattern or something."

But Brock does see a pattern with the media's coverage of his rise to indie rock prominence. A new album comes out and the music writers come calling in search of the back story about "inspiration" and all that's indescribable about the creative process. Brock doesn't like the routine. So this time out, with his side project Ugly Casanova, he decided to make stuff up.

Here's what we know: Brock's original voice and songwriting style propelled Modest Mouse out of the pack of mid-'90s, post-grunge indie bands milling around Seattle and staring at their shoes. Backed by bassist Eric Judy and drummer Jeremiah Green, Brock bent his voice and guitar chords into shapes heavy enough to flatten audiences and interesting enough to keep them thinking after the show.

The group toured with Built To Spill in the early days and by 1998, the press was declaring Brock the messiah of the Seattle sound. His voice and guitar licks manage to be both sweet and angry, simple and provocative and the kids still clamor to see this so-called second coming.

With Ugly Casanova, Brock arrives with a different band in tow and an impulsive shrug to any attempt at labeling. He created the group while producing Modest Mouse's first recording on a major label, the thoughtful and alluring The Moon and Antartica (Epic). Ugly Casanova was plan B, in case Modest Mouse's foray into the majors went awry.

Roughly two years later, both of Brock's endeavors remain intact. Modest Mouse has another release out on Epic, Everywhere and His Nasty Parlor Tricks, and Brock is spending the first part of the summer touring in support of Ugly Casanova's first LP, Sharpen Your Teeth.

Promotional materials for Ugly Casanova credit a character named Edgar Graham with being the mastermind behind Brock's new band. The saga unfolds just as music writers hope it would--streaks of blood, a missing person, a sinister package--but that's because Brock is clearly tired of talking about himself. So when it came time to hype Ugly Casanova, Brock offered up Graham, who according to legend, composed the songs found on Sharpen Your Teeth.

The new material was allegedly delivered to Sub Pop Records in a strange parcel filled with, "Silly Putty and pelts of three identifiable rodents."

Were they mice? Probably, because on Sharpen Your Teeth the Modest Mouse sound remains within earshot. But like Doug Martsch's side project The Halo Benders, where the BTS frontman teams up with K Records/Beat Happening baritone Calvin Johnson, Ugly Casanova pools familiar talent to create something altogether new.

Joining Brock are Pall Jenkins and Brian Deck from Black Heart Procession and Califone/Red Red Meat's Tim Rutili. From this mix, which also includes sometime-Modest Mouse compatriot Dan Gallucci and a relative unknown named John Orth, Ugly Casanova emerges in full swagger.

Brock's lispy lyrics and funhouse guitar riffs open the record on "Barnacles." The overdubbed voices and deliberate pacing play out like vintage Modest Mouse. But after this intro, the album grows up, moves out of the house and sprouts hair on its chest. On "Spilled Milk Factory" and "Sharpen Your Teeth," Brock sings over a kitchen sink rhythm section and does what sound like Tom Waits covers.

Then there's the horns on "Parasites." A synthesized fanfare and electronica vibe offer an engagingly strange backdrop for lyrics like: The parasites are excited when you're dead/Eyes bulging, entering your head/And all your thoughts/They rot.

The liner notes credit Ugly Casanova (aka Graham) with that one, as they do with many of Brock's contributions to the album. One of the best--and prettiest--songs on the record Brock co-wrote with John Orth, whose voice lifts "Hotcha Girls" to a lovely place. The song seems to wander through the truck stop fantasy world of author J.T. Leroy. It's a country number, but very different from the plucky and simple "Smoke Like Ribbons."

"Since I was kid, I've listened to the Memphis Jug Band, Mississippi John Hurt, Doc Boggs," says Brock during an interview from inside his tour van as it navigates the streets of Cleveland, Ohio. "So that influence is just there and I bought myself this really pretty banjo that I've tried to learn my way around."

Brock also stirs the singing saw into the mix. The saw's slow, quiet whine might surprise some fans hoping to do the "Cockroach." As audiences have already discovered, Ugly Casanova is far more sedate than Modest Mouse.

"It's a much mellower affair and that does bum some folks out because some folks just come based on the Modest Mouse connection and are expecting to mosh or whatever the fuck they do to ruin the Modest Mouse shows," says Brock. "These songs are a bit lower key. There are a couple rockers, but besides that it's a much mellower affair so that causes some heckling, but fuck 'em."

After a 1996 BTS/Modest Mouse double bill at the American Legion in Boise, I watched a mob of teenagers storm out of the show with so much pent up energy they massed around a flagpole and bent it to the ground. Modest Mouse continues to feed that frenzy. But with Ugly Casanova, Brock seems to be in search of a retreat. He's moved from Seattle to Cottage Grove, Ore., a lumber town south of Eugene, where he recorded Sharpen Your Teeth.

"Brian Deck would come out every couple months for about a week and a half," says Brock. "So we'd have that much time between to sit on the songs for a while and actually be given enough time to get distance from them and know what we wanted to change and what was missing and come up with more ideas, which is a lot nicer than just going into the studio and having this set amount of time that you need to get everything done."

But wait, wasn't Edgar Graham responsible for these songs?

Brock laughs. The van keeps rolling through Cleveland, gas fumes filling the air from a hole accidentally drilled into the gas tank by someone in his new crew.

"I've got to quit trying," says Brock. "Sorry, I'm trying to keep the hoax alive."

14 COMMENTS

Does anyone know if there could be another ugly casanova album? Just bought "we were dead" and it was gay so im hoping for some old isaac.
by Boris Yeltsin NC , Mmm-hmm 5 Apr 2007, 7:23pm Report this comment
"we were dead" is pretty fahking gay. The more I listen to it the more it reminds me of the talking heads. Which is great if you're david byrne. For MM it is some pretty weak sauce. I blame the dude from the Smith's. they were also pretty gay.
by meathead (ebrown247@yahoo.com) , Colorado 19 Apr 2007, 10:40am Report this comment
We were Dead is not by any means classic Brock, but it shows where this is going, the bands getting bigger and by the next album if their is another it's likly to be the last. I didn't think much of the new stuff but after lossing all my cd's and having nothing else to hear for like two weeks their is some clever stuff there and the bands got it going on, and I know seeing this album done live would be killer! I seen MM on the good news tour and it was fucking dope, the band plays so fucking hard and Isaac sings his soul out it's the best show I've seen! I got off track a little but the new album has some good stuff on it but it takes time to get into it.
by statusquo , Tucson,AZ 22 Apr 2007, 12:42am Report this comment
can we say that all of ugly casanovas songs are because of isaac brock,or was it the whole bands work? did he come up with this mastermind alone?
by k_d , the zoo 3 Aug 2007, 11:39am Report this comment
"so fahking gay" "it was gay" Who the "f" are you "f"ing tools? You two are the music fans from hell. You two are the guys that no one wants to stand next to at a concert. Criticisms are welcome. "so fahking gay" is not a criticism. It's more of a self-descriptive term that tells more about YOU than Issac Brock, or Ugly Casanova. And what it says about YOU is much worse than what you could say about Isaac Brock, MM, or Ugly Casanova. I am not defending MM's new album - it is no "lonesome crowded west" - that's for sure. But comments such as "they are so gay" are not only very unhelpful in helping people understand your music criticism - but it just plain makes you look stupid.
by HDragon , DC 15 Sep 2007, 3:17am Report this comment
of course i've got something to say...one..the mother fucker that had the audacity to call modest mouse gay is a complete fat ass that eats corndogs like he's sucking horse cock. i know he's complete fat ass..anyways the story about Edgar allen poe Casanova rocks. No matter if fiction or non...its a great feeling and im leaning towards the he exists side...and the power behind the band is exactly what music should be like. totally psychedelic..yet sound like im in a swamp with boggs. im talking about ugly casanovas sound..its amazing and the fact that they exist in a so narrow minded horse cock loving world.
by fuckingbreak (hapyncrazy@hotmail.com) , drums, pa 13 Oct 2007, 7:34pm Report this comment
From what I understand none of the members of modest mouse nor any of there albums are homosextual and neither do they suggest or claim to be. There new album is much different then there old stuff but your different then when you were three problay better so whats wrong with that? It's a sign of maturety and changing proitys in the musicians.
by BradGarrow (garrow_64@hotmail.com) , Ontario, Canada 8 Jan 2008, 4:18pm Report this comment
You know, as a musician, i understand whats going on with brock changing up the styles, like on we were dead. no one wants to play stuff that sounds exactly the same forever, and as a fan i dont want to hear the same thing on every cd. with ugly casanova, he was trying something different, the ssame way he tried somethgin new with we were dead. and that cd fuckin rocked. so fuck you all.
by Jokeboarder1 (Jokeboarder1@yahoo.com) , Upland 6 May 2008, 2:42pm Report this comment
Hey I'm gonna have to agree with Jokeboarder1. Anyone who can say that "we were dead" is gay should find a new genre preference. If you can't see that they are setting a new standard in their music then I recommend you go listen to some Britteny Spears or maybe even some Christina Aguilera. It seems to me that Pop music should hold all the musical depth and substance that you guys could handle. If you think that MM is getting gay, well, what can I say. That's your right. Your opinion. But please, don't post your musical jargon for us who actually care for difference and musical-structure in this world where music is sadly receiving a brutal blow by idiots who can use a beat program like fruity loops.
by Peppy , TT 18 Sep 2008, 5:21pm Report this comment
there can never be a new ugly casanova album the legend of edgar grahm and the ugly casanova is dead brock has exposed it as complete fiction. I personally enjoy we were dead I believe that Johnny Marr has contributed to the Modest sound of the mouse (but that might be the "The Smiths" fan in me) and no it is not quite the same but still modest and mousey and I have a friend who hated we were dead when he heard it and also hated good news-bad news. My advice is see them live. It completely changed his view of those 2 albums. they also played all the just as awesome classics off of moon and antartica, lonesome crowded west, and long drive (my personal favorites) but lie made all the difference. they put on am awesome show go see it. and I will also suggest a band called Man Man when I saw mouse they played with them and they were the funniest live band I have ever seen.

sincerely fellow indie rocker,

Alex Smith

by needled2_4_7 (needled2_4_7@yahoo.com) , Texas 17 Nov 2008, 7:12pm Report this comment
Bullshit to ALMOST everything above. Modest Mouse is definately not gay and the new album definately sucks balls. Don't any of you get it? That's exactly what Brocks's trying to tell you. The theme itself portrays him as the captain of this crazy ship, the ship being modest mouse. That entire album is about how much he hates what modest mouse has become and how much he wants to try his chances solo. THE FUCKING TITLE IS CALLED "WE WERE DEAD BEFORE THE SHIP EVEN SANK". ??????? He's saying the concept of modest mouse died back before GOOD NEWS. He's just trying to regenerate an honest sense of artistry via UGLY CASANOVA. more power to him. The reason its great is because he's realized that he's becoming a parody of himself. He's making fun of all of you fuckers that dance to the new album. It's just a huge fucking joke, Brock style.
by skinny bone tree 30 Jan 2009, 7:53am Report this comment
actually it's funny because John Orth, who is gay, was a seemingly unknown performer although the Holopaw stuff is really nice. But rumor has it that the reason this album turned out so well and the performances were so good is that Isaac Brock was very much in love with an unattainable Orth who was and is happy in a relationship.
by Outing Queers NC 17 Feb 2009, 1:54am Report this comment
OK... First off I love Ugly Casanova, but you are truly elitist if you are knocking "We were dead..." so freaking hard. I see what Isaac was going for and it is much more sophisticated than previous albums. Though not my favorite, it includes some amazing ideas and tones...

For example "Fly Trapped In a Jar" specifically has the guitar tones and licks sounding like a fly buzzing around. "Parting of The Sensory" has some amazing changes, and the ending is brilliant... especially the gas mask breathing sounds at the end. "Missed The Boat" is brilliant lyrically speaking of them dealing with their new found fame and the way fans are viewing them. "Steam Engenius" has a very "factory" kind of timbre to it which sets the tone for the lyrics perfectly, speaking of an AI machine leader running the world. Something could be said about every song...

The album is very sophisticated and shows the band grasping at much higher musical ground than previously achieved. The amount of thought and planning put into it is staggering.

Like I said... Not my favorite of their albums, but it is not worth bashing. Try educating yourself in music and crafting an album before bashing.

by speakercoil Raleigh 24 Feb 2009, 1:24am Report this comment
Skinny Bones... Actually you are quite wrong about Isaac's views of Modest Mouse... He was asked about how fans say he "sold out" with "Good News...", and he basically said he understood why fans didn't like it, but that he was quite fond of the record. He said when they went into the studio he knew it was their "one chance" at making a large budget project, and so he set out to make the best record he possibly could. It is reflected in "Good News.."

Sonically the album is amazing, and the tunes are brilliantly arranged. Brock has no intentions of breaking up the band, and is quite fond of the newer stuff they have been doing. If you listen to "Missed The Boat" it is clearly about them dealing with fame and how fans perceive them. "And I'll laugh all the way to hell, saying yes this a fine promotion", and it speaks of their inability to market themselves "we owned all the tools ourselves, without the skills to make a shelf with". He speaks of "Good News..." as being a pillar but using as a crutch. In other words they created something great, a solid foundation... But they used it poorly to keep themselves a float. Basically the song is about hating fame... Wanting things to be back where they were. Not musically mind you, but as far as attention goes.

It is well known that Brock hates press, media, and the attention that comes with rising up the charts. He is one of those musicians like Thom York that would rather be obscure and unknown and just make music the way he wants and not be bothered by questions and assumptions.

He does love Modest Mouse and you can count on many more records to come. Isaac had plenty of chances to break up the band if he wanted to... With band members constantly leaving and changing... Those are easy moments to call it off. Instead he found new members and kept the momentum going.

by speakercoil Raleigh 24 Feb 2009, 1:39am Report this comment
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