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Julia Boseman won't back down

N.C.'s only openly gay state senator on politics, parenting and Jesse Helms



Click for larger image • N.C. Sen. Julia Boseman: "I am going to be honest with the people about who I am, just as I will be about honest with them about the issues that affect them."
Photo by Jeremy M. Lange
If you know anything about Julia Boseman, it's that she's North Carolina's only out state senator. Or that she was the solitary holdout who voted no on the resolution honoring Sen. Jesse Helms after he died last year. Or that she recently won a nasty custody case with her ex-partner over rights to see her 7-year-old son.

In sitting down with the Indy recently at her Wilmington home, Boseman, a 43-year-old Democrat from New Hanover County, spoke frankly and movingly about those issues as well as her continued loyalty to both Clintons, her disappointment in President Obama's efforts on LGBT issues and her new spouse, Chrystal Medlin, and the baby boy they're expecting in January.

For Boseman (and North Carolina's LGBT community), it's been, as she says, a "really good year," one where she successfully led the fight as primary sponsor of the School Violence Prevention Act (known informally as the anti-bullying bill), which specifically protects LGBT kids and marks the first time that sexual orientation and gender identity are included in North Carolina law. The year also marked the passage of the Healthy Youth Act, which provides young people with life-saving information about STDs as part of a comprehensive sex education program that teaches more than just abstinence.

What do others think of her contributions? Ian Palmquist, executive director of Equality NC and a frequent collaborator with Boseman, says, "Julia's making a big difference behind the scenes. She's really stepped up in the past year and made a big difference for us."

Attorney Sharon Thompson, who represented Boseman in the adoption of her son, Jacob, and specializes in LGBT legal issues, explained: "She's really started changing people's perceptions [of lesbians]. It's very significant that she can speak out as a gay parent, a parent like others who go to soccer games. It's had great effect."

One of her biggest boosters remains former President Bill Clinton, with whom Boseman barnstormed the state in support of Hillary Clinton during the primaries. In a statement to the Indy, he said: "I met Julia when we campaigned together for my wife across North Carolina, and I could tell by the way she listened to people and addressed crowds that she was the kind of politician whose first priority was to achieve positive and meaningful changes for the people she served. She has already done great things in the Assembly, helping to create new jobs, improve education, protect families from gang violence, and fight the rising costs of health care. She has broken through stigma and inspired a generation of LBGT public servants to serve openly in North Carolina and beyond. For as much as she's already been able to accomplish, I am confident her best years as a legislator and public servant are still ahead."

As she told us, it's been "a very good year. It's about time."

Indy: When you first ran for office, were you out as a lesbian?

Sen. Boseman: Yes!

How much do you think your sexual identity has been a driver in your political life?

I have to say it's much easier with the whole world knowing that you're gay. I can remember when I ran in 2000 for county commissioner, I had a choice: I can either be closeted or I can run as an openly gay candidate. If I run as an out gay person, I take away the biggest bombshell that they can use against me. There was a lot of interest in my race at that time—especially my first Senate race [in 2004]—because there have only been a handful of openly gay elected officials in North Carolina. So people from around the country had concerns.

[In the end], I made a conscious decision to run as an out lesbian. I have to say it was a little unnerving when the media went through my campaign reports and they found out I got support from the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund. They came into my office with the cameras running, saying, "You're a lesbian. You're openly gay."

"Yes, I am. I am going to be honest with the people about who I am, just as I will be about honest with them about the issues that affect them."

So what's it like to be the lesbian, the only out state senator, the poster child for being an elected dyke here in North Carolina?

I never really think of it like that. People automatically assume things about you because you're gay—like you're going to raise taxes through the roof because you're liberal. You want everything that's considered liberal. Actually, we care about all the same things as other people—getting a good education, roads, where's the guy who's picking up my trash.

What advice do you have for other LGBT folks who are thinking about politics and public service?

You better have a really thick skin. You better want it real bad. You need to work hard. Don't get distracted from the light at the end of the tunnel.

For you, what is that light?

My son, Jacob, and my spouse, Chrystal. I certainly miss him not being here every day, but coming home to her—it just doesn't get any better. After all I've been through—or the two of us have been through together [referencing her bitter custody case, which has resulted in joint custody with her ex-partner]—we're very fortunate that we have a solid relationship, and we're expecting another child in January. Life goes on.



Click for larger image • Boseman, right, with her spouse, Chrystal Medlin, and son Jacob Boseman-Jarrell.
Photo courtesy Julia Boseman

Let's shift gears and talk about the landmark anti-bullying act that was finally passed by both houses this past session and signed into law by Gov. Beverly Perdue.

We've been trying to get it passed for quite some time now. And I have worked very hard with Rep. Rick Glazier (D-Cumberland) this year. In the past, I tried to avoid being the message and the messenger. This year I just felt that in order for it to pass I had to take on both roles. But I'm not going to lie to you. I've gotten my feelings hurt a couple of times. There were people who would not sign onto the bill and who would not be up-front with me or vote for it, and then say they want to be my friend and hug me and love me. But I know they're not supporting this bill because it has "sexual orientation" in it. That was not the most pleasant experience.

At the end of the day, though, the bill is about protecting kids. And as unfortunate as it was, when we were trying to pass the bill the media pretty much made the case for us. There were two separate incidents, 11-year-old boys—one in Georgia and the other in Massachusetts—who were both bullied for being perceived to be gay, not actually being gay. They both hung themselves. I'm a mother, and believe me, kids are mean. Kids shouldn't have to be bullied to the point where they kill themselves.

Isn't that extreme? Bullying in the schools has gone on for decades. Why do we need protection from the state and why carve out sexual orientation and gender identification?

We had people arguing, like Paul Stam, House Minority leader (R-Wake) and others, saying, "You know we would support it if didn't have enumerated classes [like sexual orientation and gender identity]." But we did the enumeration because we felt that the groups had to be actually named because they were the ones most likely to be bullied and needed the increased protection. It's unfortunate that we have to pass a bill that tells school systems: "You can't let people be bullied. You have to have policies."

So what are the requirements in the schools?

Schools are going to have to come up with policies district by district. We don't tell them what to do if a kid spits at another kid. All we said was, "You're going to have written policies, and these are the people who need to be enumerated out." I think someone stood up and said [when we were debating], "We should have a bullying policy for white Republican men." I said, "I think you guys are doing OK."

What's a big deal for gays and lesbians is that this is the first time in North Carolina that sexual orientation has been written into the law. It was a huge victory for that, but at the end of the day, the bill was about protecting kids.

You mentioned Paul Stam earlier. What's it like to hear ill-informed or homophobic comments from him or the Christian Action League? For instance, during the debate over the bullying bill, they claimed there was a list of more than 30 mental disorders based on sexual orientation and gender identity according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the bible of the American Psychiatric Association. As you know, no such list exists, and comments like that are meant to incite fear.

I think he's said some pretty twisted stuff—some pretty twisted and sick things. I can take it, but it hurts the people around me more than it hurts me. The only time he ever bothered me was when we were debating the bullying bill in a house committee, and my son was in the room, and he started handing out stuff saying, "Gay people aren't good parents." I'm thinking, what's wrong with you? It's just twisted.

Did he know your son was in the room?

Yes, I believe he did.

Let's talk about the Healthy Youth Act, which allows for sex education to be taught in grades 7 through 9 for the first time. This was another major victory for progressives in the state this past year.

I think it's absolutely fine if parents want to teach their kids abstinence until marriage, but in all reality that ain't going to happen. If you look at the percentage of STDs out there, especially among minority women, we need to make sure our kids know what's going on and are prepared.

When I was growing up, you didn't hear about AIDS or any of these STDs; it just wasn't as prevalent as it is now. There's so much pressure in the high schools now for kids to have sex. They seem to be having it earlier and earlier, and I'm not encouraging it, but I think kids need to be informed of what the risks are.

What was it like to achieve these victories?

Our victories this year were huge. I mean passing the bullying act and the Healthy Youth Act in the same year. It was so great. You should have seen the Christian Action League. They could hardly speak to me, and I was like, "I beat you!" Reverend Mark Creech [the league's executive director] was just red-faced and defeated. It was a great feeling. They tried to say things like you're going to go into the schools and teach the kids how to have gay sex. And, we're like, "No, we're not." The closed-mindedness of people is surprising—but at least we got it passed.

Was there a different strategy deployed this year?

With the bullying bill, [as I said] I had to literally be the message. I had to look people in the face in the House and Senate, and they had to tell me no to my face. It was uncomfortable. This isn't about me—it's about the kids. They would just say horrible things in committee, and I would just tune it out, and Rep. Angela Bryant [D-Nash] came up to me and said, "How can you stand up there and take that?"

I said, "If I didn't stand up for myself, how can I expect anyone else to stand up for me?" She was like, "Julia, I just couldn't do it if I were you." This is about kids; this is not about me. So you take your licks.

How come North Carolina—alone among Southern states—has managed to keep an anti-gay marriage amendment from coming to a vote? Are we a better people? Do we have better LGBT advocates?

It's for a lot of reasons, but a lot of it, frankly, is the pure politics of it. I think the Democratic leadership wants to maintain the [upper hand], and if you allow that amendment to get on a ballot, that's going to bring out people who don't normally vote, who will vote not only for the ballot measure, but will also vote Republican. They don't want that. A lot of this has been about preservation of the leadership, by not allowing it out for a vote at all. I think if the bill were introduced, it would come close to passing.

When will we get domestic partnerships or civil unions statewide?

I have no idea. I would think there would have to be some kind of trade-off. Civil unions for gay marriage. But there isn't even any talk of that.



Click for larger image • Sen. Julia Boseman at home in Wilmington
Photo by Jeremy M. Lange

For many in our community, the choice between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in the past election was a wrenching one. How did you make your decision? Do you regret it?

I definitely don't regret it. I was fortunate enough to go to the primary debate in South Carolina and see Hillary. I just liked her approach. I liked what she had to say. I believe and still do believe in her. I have great respect for President Obama—and I'm certainly glad he beat McCain and that Palin woman, because she's frightening.

How did you come to be involved in Sen. Clinton's campaign?

First of all, Hillary's people asked me, and Obama's people didn't ask. I've always loved Bill Clinton to death and been a supporter. I would have loved to have seen a female president, but again, I'm happy with President Obama.

What was it like to travel with former President Clinton when he traveled the state before the North Carolina primary?

It was just like he had known you forever. We were flying and I said to myself, "I can't believe I'm sitting on this plane next to President Clinton eating Chick-Fil-A. That was an opportunity of a lifetime. To this day, I still e-mail a couple of times with President Clinton's chief of staff.

Do you have any relationship with the Obama administration?

No, I don't.

As you know, the president has come under much fire from the LGBT community for failing to follow through on a variety of things important to gays and lesbians. How do you rate him on LGBT issues?

I expected and expect more leadership. It's like people are so scared of any gay issue. The best way to deal with something like that is to do it, get it over with and stop talking about it. So, yes, I think he could have done better, but I'm hopeful for the future.

Do you think Secretary Clinton would have been more effective as president at this point?

I do. I do.

Let's turn the clock back a bit and talk about the late Sen. Jesse Helms, who died in July 2008. You're the only state senator who voted no on the resolution honoring him after he died, which made headlines and is highly unusual. In fact, all the others who opposed it chose to walk out rather than vote no. How premeditated was your decision?

I was alone. In some ways I should thank the guy because in 2000 he was still in office, and that's the first year I ran. I could go around the country and say, "I'm from North Carolina, home of Jesse Helms," and just hear the groans. He helped me.

"The only reason I voted no was because there was no 'hell no' button there I could push." —Julia Boseman on opposing a resolution honoring the late U.S. Sen. Jesse Helms

He was against AIDS and gay people. He was just Mr. Hateful, he was mean—"Senator No." How could I vote to honor the man who treated us the way he did? There's absolutely no way I could do it. I knew his wife was sitting up there in the gallery [when the vote was being taken], and I thought I showed the greatest deal of respect by not standing up and saying, "How can you vote to honor this hateful man after all the horrible things he's done?" The only reason I voted no was because there was no "hell no" button there I could push.

Finally, let's talk about your Court of Appeals victory, in which you sued your ex-partner, Melissa Jarrell, for joint custody of your son with the goal of maintaining Jacob's right to continue having the love and support of two responsible parents. This must have been deeply upsetting to you, as it was to many in the gay community, specifically because had Jarrell won, the "don't ask, don't tell" approach to second-parent adoptions in the state might have ended. Basically, after agreeing to have you become a legal second mother to Jacob, Jarrell tried to have your rights dissolved, possibly undermining same-sex second adoptions statewide. How do you understand what happened with your ex?

I don't, really. This is my son we're talking about. It's not how I like to make laws—by going to the Court of Appeals myself. I'm glad that I did do it, but it wasn't even a choice. I said to my lawyer, "We have to sue her for custody," and he said, "Your political career is over. You'll never get re-elected if you do this." And I said, "It's my son."

I tried everything to work it out with her. Mediation. Everything. It was so bad. At some point, Jacob's going to Google it and he's going to hear what was said, which is why I've tried never to say anything negative about her in public. But she tried to take his parent away from him.

Is it over?

We're hoping that it's done.

What's up next for you on the horizon?

I don't know. I haven't made any [political] decisions. I'm relieved to be out of session, and my [child] custody case is hopefully done with—and that's been the hugest relief. Now, I'm looking forward to having a healthy boy with Chrystal in January.

Steven Petrow is a regular contributor to the Independent and The Huffington Post. He's a past president of the National Lesbian & Gay Journalists Association.

31 COMMENTS

Jesse Helms was an American hero. The Senate is at a lost for not having a man of his conviction in it today. He did more to defend American soverignty from the globalist powers threatening our soverignty than almost any other member of Congress. This woman is a disgrace.
by brentf777 Durham 23 Sep 2009, 6:40pm Report this comment
The new morality that is being crammed down the throats of right-thinking Americans by a completely out of control and over-funded far left wing, is only the old immorality in a business suit. It's sickening, digusting, and destroying the fabric of the nation. God help us all. (By the way, since you in the GL community will undoubtedly read this as hate, let me clarify--it's NOT. Sadness, anger, frustration over the loss of the nation's moral compass; sorrow for the pain of the misled and misunderstood; disappointment at so many whose influence is bought and paid for by the militant minority; yes.) Social justice this is not.
by MadVulcan Cary 24 Sep 2009, 8:42am Report this comment
I'm a heterosexual woman and think that Julia Boseman has courage and represents so many good things Jesse Helms did not. Thank goodness this world is changing and there are going to be less and less people like the person who first commented on this story. How could anyone support a man who had such hate and judgement for so many? Yes, the Jesse Helms of the world, or rather those who live their life from a place of fear, are slowly losing out to the people who do not. It's actually the only way to live truthfully, so I say more power to any politician who has felt the fear, but has risen above.
by pmw NC , Greensboro 24 Sep 2009, 9:01am Report this comment
kudos julia !!! glad you fought for custody inspite of your pain in the relationship disolving. In january I became widowed refer to article in indy "Loved and Lost" 07/01/09. thankfully i didn't have to do any legal battle but I do know what it is like to have to recover emotionally. Stick to your political beliefs ,and I hope you continue to serve nc for a long time to come. June Galbraith
by june (junestweetyred@aol.com) , rocky mount 24 Sep 2009, 9:05am Report this comment
I think she's my new hero. And just to refute the other comment, Jesse Helms is exactly what's wrong with this country. I wish he had died decades ago before he could have spewed his hateful ideology across our nation. He was a disgrace to our state.
by jgimondo Raleigh 24 Sep 2009, 9:19am Report this comment
It's very scary to see someone calling Jessie Helms an American Hero. I imagine it was a provocateur who just wanted to create some sensationalism. Blogging doesn't have to be referenced so we can't really tell what people are referring to with or without quotes. We needed someone to come out opposing Helms in a big way. Bless her heart!
by susone Chapel Hill 24 Sep 2009, 9:34am Report this comment
The other issue that really rankles me is: Homosexuals are so special. They know so much more then us poor unenlightened hetero's. B. I'm required to buy into their agenda. You're not and I don't.
by footpath 24 Sep 2009, 11:22am Report this comment
"They know so much more then us poor unenlightened hetero's. B."

You're correct, some of us do know more than some of you. The rest of your comment is stereotypically ignorant.

I may find Senator Boseman personal life abhorrent, but I find ignorant hate intolerable.

by McFray NC 24 Sep 2009, 11:31am Report this comment
In the ideal world of an educated and open-minded society, Julia Boseman's sexual orientation would have ABSOLUTELY NO impact on the perception of her job performance. Sadly, homophobia, ignorance, fear, and hate still predominate in many parts of our country (of which Jesse Helms was a prime example). I congratulate Ms Boseman on her support of anti-bullying legislation and agree that by every possible standard, abstinence only education has failed miserably. After reading your article, however, those are really the only observations about her time in office that I come away with.
by syz Durham 24 Sep 2009, 1:34pm Report this comment
So what? Its an undeniable fact that some people are attracted to their own gender. This is not a moral state of existence any more than all humans are morally tainted by the "Original Sin" of all of us having a common genetic male and female human ancestor. I probably disagree with most of Julia Boseman's political positions, but the fact that she's not sexually attracted to men is not something she needs to apologize or back down from.
by Dan G from Montana , Montana 24 Sep 2009, 1:47pm Report this comment
Thanks to NC Senator Boseman for her effective efforts in passing the School Violence Prevention Act and the Healthy Youth Act. Thanks also to the voters in New Hanover County for supporting her in office. These laws are clearly needed to protect the civil rights and health of children, who are the future of North Carolina and our nation. States need citizens who are healthy, both in mind and body. Compared to these new laws, the personal issues discussed openly in the interview are informative, but of little or no political importance. When making public judgment, please remember that you are judged by the way that you judge others.
by Doug B Cary 24 Sep 2009, 3:27pm Report this comment
Jesse Helms represented everything good about this state; ethics, morality, responsibility, truth. Basically everything the Democratic Party has abandoned. Julia, on the other hand, obviously is the complete opposite of Jesse. She is even a Clinton-lover for gosh sakes! And we all know how well he represented ethics, morality, responsibility, truth. The only reason she was re-elected was because of her Washington connections and the little-known, freshman candidate she ran against.
by Gracie dog 41 Raleigh 24 Sep 2009, 4:38pm Report this comment
No, susone, not a provocateur, just a life-long NC native of rock solid political and moral conviction. And to pmw, I sure hope for all our sakes that you're wrong and there aren't going to be "less and less" people like me as time goes on or our nation is doomed to the dustbin of history. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams. When the "new morality" replaces the old and the power/control politics of the tyrants on the far left replaces freedom and liberty as the Founders understood it we will lose our Republic. It will either collapse outright or we will become just another bananna republic leftist dictatorship, but America will be dead.
by brentf777 Durham 24 Sep 2009, 7:58pm Report this comment
Thank God that majority of the citizens of NC has move past Helms Dixiecrat thinking. Well i guess that those peoples could move to SC. But they wont. And we all know why they want. State senator Boseman sexuality does not effect mines nor anybody else marriage.
by COS Durham 25 Sep 2009, 9:26am Report this comment
I wish we had more strong, non-apologizing, real talking people like you in the senate! You are correct about Jesse Helms he was full of hatred and his hate caused too many people harm all across this country not just in NC. You inspire me and I send you nothing but respect and support!!!!
by Kdub Raleigh 27 Sep 2009, 10:04pm Report this comment
Libs label pretty much any opinion that doesn't fit into their worldview as "hate." Or if you critize someone who's a minority and you're not a minority, you're automatically labeled a "racist." Those words are thrown around so much nowadays they've pretty much lost all practical meaning. You people may be set on destroying the country, but do you have to destroy the English language while you're at it?!
by brentf777 Durham 28 Sep 2009, 1:40am Report this comment
Hate is denying someone their basic rights, including marriage/civil union/whatever you want to call it, based on their sexual orientation. The only tyrants in this country are those that insist on denying those whose sexual preferences don't meet the norm their fundamental rights. Jesse Helms was one of the most hateful, non-Christ-like people to ever call themselves an American. Jesus would never have denied someone their rights based on their race on sexual orientation
by Charlie Burnett Raleigh 29 Sep 2009, 11:12am Report this comment
And I'm not even a Christian. I'm just tired of all these hate-mongering right-wing "Christians" who don't even practice the morals and ethics of their own savior and use religion against people, instead of the other way around. Pretty sure that's not what your good book says
by Charlie Burnett Raleigh 29 Sep 2009, 11:17am Report this comment
Charlie,

You obviously have no understanding whatsoever of Christ or the Christian religion. And you said you yourself are not a Christian so why do you feel you have any right whatsoever to define what our relgion is or what it means? Those "right wing" Christians (by your estimation of what "right wing" means) are the only real Christians in the population. The Bible teaches us to love the sinner, but hate sin. Thus when we tell people their actions are sin and they will go to hell if they don't change their ways, that is love, not hate. If we hated them, we'd all just let them go their own way and burn and not blink an eye. But we don't want them to go to hell so we try to warn them. Then if they mock us, call us "haters," ignore us, etc. we have discharged our duty to God and their blood is on their own hands. Many people seem to forget that the moral laws of God in the Old Testament never passed away and God's attitude toward sin never changed. Only laws pertaining to the sacrificial system became obsolete, because Christ became the ultimate sacrifice. The Old and New Testaments are very clear that homosexuals wll go to hell. But they're not singled out by any means. Read Revelation, there's a big lists of lots of other folks who will be joining them.

Addressing second point, your political argument has no merit. This is not about "denying basic rights." The government has no intrinsic right to regulate any kind of marriage in my opinion. It is a purely religious institution. If two gay people want to have a cememony and call themselves married, no one is stopping them. But this isn't about that. It's about giving official government recognition to perversion and giving them a tax break too. Why not just get government out of marriage altogether? Treat everyone as individuals, tax everyone as individuals, and let people call themselves whatever they will.

by brentf777 Durham 29 Sep 2009, 7:33pm Report this comment
Im a Democratic Christian. I support the seperation of Church and Hate. Too many "Christians" only say that they are Christian to gain popularity. Look at the Church today, they are too worried about "dealing" with gay people and the politics of the Church. Last I checked, I go to Church to worship my God, not find new ways to put down gay people. And just so you know, the Old Testament largely became obsolete. The only rules we have now, are those set by Christ himself. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul. And Love your neighbor as yourself. So those claiming Christianity need to read their Bible again. In John 3:16 it says for God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son so that WHOEVER believes in him shall not perish but have enternal life. Nowhere in there does it say that everyone except gay people can go to Heaven. Stop trying to use your religion as a weapon, because you will lose every time. and Oh yes, there will be gay people in Heaven.

Sen. Boseman, you're doing a great job protecting our children, no matter which walk of life they are going down.

by cody1213 NC , Mount Airy 30 Sep 2009, 8:38am Report this comment
brent, would you care to address the theological/ethical inconsistency in your position, i.e. boseman is a bad politican due to her sexual orientation while helms is a hero despite his active and virulent racism?
by alvon 30 Sep 2009, 11:03am Report this comment
Marriage may be a religious institution for some, but for many it is not. There are plenty of people, not just in this country, but all over the world who are married despite differing religion between the spouses or who practice no religion at all. Should we deny their marriage because they may view it as something more than a religious union? Or not even as a religious union? You say you oppose government regulation of marriage. So do you believe that only churches, and only Christian churches, should be allowed to hand out marriage licenses? Wouldn't that make us a religious state? Have you not seen the problems that happen with religious states in the Middle East? My ultimate point is the government doesn't tell you which religion to pick, so you shouldn't tell the government by which religious law they should follow. Separation of church and state
by Charlie Burnett Raleigh 30 Sep 2009, 1:16pm Report this comment
Marriage has always been a religious institution from the beginning of time. It was always associated with religion. However, I don't believe only churches should hand out marriage licences. I don't believe we should have to have licences to marry. No state endorsement of marriage gay or straight, period. Government should treat everyone as individual citizens. No special privilages for anyone based on voluntary associations. And don't cry, "separation of church and state." Its a myth. The phrase does not exist in the Constitution, read it. The specific clause you are references says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." To interpret this in proper context we must go back to the original writers, the Founding Fathers themselves. Obviously the phase means what they would have interpreted it to mean at the time of the document's writing, not whatever activist judges re-interpret it to mean today. The phase does not mean "seperation of church and state" but more "no state church" which is very different. There was always the underlying assumtion we were a Christian nation, a notion early Supreme Court justices readily acknowledeged. They did not want a state sponsored denomination of Christianity. They never dreamed we've ever come to the point were we had a large, hostile, anti-Christian segmment of the population. The Christian faith was taught and practiced in public actively for most of our nation's history. We only decided it was "unconstitutional" about 50 years ago, but it was obviously not unconstitutional to the people who actually wrote the Constitution and ultimately it's only their opinion that matters.
by brentf777 Durham 30 Sep 2009, 2:01pm Report this comment
Reply to the "Democratic Christian." You can attend church all you want, but it doesn't make you a Christian. Still, Biblically your positions do not fall within the Christian faith. You are a heretic. And I urge you to actually read the Bible (Old and New Testaments) and do what it says. I guarantee if you don't, you won't like the end results...

Reply to alvon, Read before you post. Other folks got me on the topic. I did not say anything implying Ms. Boseman was a bad politician BECAUSE of her personal lifestyle choices. And, sorry, she's not doing a good job protecting our children. The anti-bully bill that passed will only increase discrimination against conservative, religious students. Oh, I forgot, one of the main missions of the public schools today is to eliminate those undesirables through government "reeducation." We become more like Nazi Germany every year... I would never let any kid of mine be exposed to the constant anti-Christian bigotry and PC indoctrination present in our public school system. If I ever have kids I am intelligent and well educated enough to educate them myself.

by brentf777 Durham 30 Sep 2009, 2:17pm Report this comment
This isn't an "anti-Christian" nation. Nor is it a merely Christian nation. It's a Christian, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Agnostic, Atheist, free to practice whatever religion you please nation. I am perfectly fine with Christianity. Both of my parents are Christian. I am not fine with Christians, however, who use their religion against other people. I'm not fine with Al Qaeda using Islam as an excuse to murder innocent people. I'm not fine with anyone from any religion using it against other people. And thank god (lololololol) won't be attending regular school. We sure as heck don't need any more children instilled with hatred by their parents to be making fun of those who can't help their sexual preference.
by Charlie Burnett Raleigh 30 Sep 2009, 3:29pm Report this comment
***And thank god (lololololol) your children won't be attending regular school. We sure as heck don't need any more children instilled with hatred by their parents to be making fun of those who can't help their sexual preference. Your kid is allowed to have their opinion. They shouldn't be allowed to make another kid's life a living hell, however, because of that opinion
by Charlie Burnett Raleigh 30 Sep 2009, 3:33pm Report this comment
Why would you assume I would be in favor of bullying anyone? I would strictly punish my child for bullying anyone. But, I wouldnt indoctrinate them with pc lies and garbage our society perpetuates either.
by brentf777 Durham 30 Sep 2009, 4:44pm Report this comment
@brent You are mistaken. Marriage was not created as a religious institution, it was created for the purpose of property exchange and political expediency. Women were considered chattel, unable to own property, and used to parry favor among families. The "sanctity of marriage" argument is fatuous.
by syz Durham 5 Oct 2009, 1:47pm Report this comment
Cody123, I see you are familiar with the most repeated verse in the Bible, but you obviously haven't read it. Read Revelation, there will be no gay people in heaven. As you state, if you believe in Him, you will have eternal life. You leave out the fact that if you truly believe in Him, you will obey Him and repent. We will all have our chance, actually several chances during the Tribulation, to repent prior to being judged by God. If you don't, sucks to be you, eternally!
by Gracie dog 41 Raleigh 5 Oct 2009, 3:50pm Report this comment
Anyone who thinks Jesse Helms was a hero should go and live in Afghanistan. I'm sure you would find their laws to your liking. You will find no out gays or lesbians and the women are sufficiently oppressed.
by Sam D. NC 26 Oct 2009, 3:31pm Report this comment
I say "Kudos" to Sen. Boseman, for being out. Now how about the rest of you? Let's all get over sexuality as an issue, so that we can focus on important matters.
by Sam D. NC 26 Oct 2009, 3:48pm Report this comment
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