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Neal Hutcheson



Filmmaker Neal Hutchison with a trusted companion
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Neal Hutcheson spends half of his waking life in a tiny, airless office deep inside N.C. State's Tompkins Hall. There are no windows in his office and he has no contact with other humans. He wears headphones and keeps the door closed. The light in the room comes from the twin computer monitors in front of him.

It's a strange and lonely way to live, but for the defiantly independent and remarkably prolific Hutcheson—who recently completed the marvelous and empathetic Mountain Talk—there is no other way to get things done. Many filmmakers enjoy the editing process, but Hutcheson won't go that far. "I'll go in at 8 p.m. and come out at 4 or 5 in the morning. Every other day I do enjoy it, when things start to click," he says in a recent telephone interview. "But the majority is incredible tedium, punctuated by moments of elation—the ecstatic moments that make it all worthwhile."

But the fearful quantities of time that Hutcheson must spend alone are necessary compensation for the amount of time he spends in the field, pursuing his subjects. Thanks to these alternating currents of activity, the Raleigh documentary maker has churned out a steady stream of films in the decade since his graduation from N.C. State. He's made personal and evocative works in celebration of folk artists, and he's directed music videos for local bands. And the 34-year-old filmmaker has supported himself and his young family by making educational and instructional videos through various grant-driven projects at the university.

Hutcheson cut his teeth professionally by working with the NCSU linguist Walt Wolfram and other social scientists, making instructional and anthropological films. On his own time, he experimented with the possibilities of Super-8 narrative. Now, his career has taken a step forward with the recently completed Mountain Talk, a charming, amusing and informative look at the lingering vocal mannerisms of Western North Carolina.

Hutcheson began the project two and a half years ago, following leads and taking his camera through the hollers, gulches and dens of the Smokies. "I made 50-100 trips—I totally got sucked into the mountains," he said. "After a while, I just had to stop."

It's a measure of Hutcheson's respect for his subjects that Mountain Talk doesn't indulge the stereotypes born of Deliverance and Snuffy Smith, but the filmmaker did indeed find people who have only a nodding acquaintance with the outside world of the 21st century. Although Hutcheson features dozens of mostly elderly interview subjects—who share their thoughts on such locutions as si-gogglin', airish and boomer—his most charming discovery is a man of indeterminate age named Popcorn Sutton, a moonshiner who putters along the region's narrow roads in his vintage Model-A.

The briskly edited and highly entertaining Mountain Talk is scheduled to air this winter on WUNC-TV. "PBS is doing a big program on Appalachia," Hutcheson says. "Maybe they'll run it at that time." He also plans on submitting it to the Full Frame documentary festival and some others. "I'll need to do some research. It's been a while since I was actively submitting to festivals." In the meantime, Hutcheson is editing about 40 hours of additional material into a companion film called Tarheel Talk, which covers speaking styles from across the state. He hopes to have it finished by the end of the year.

One of the most striking aspects of Hutcheson's work is his genuine and unironic fascination with marginal subcultures. His most well-known and successful project prior to Mountain Talk, for example, is a short Super-8 film called Vollis Simpson's Whirligigs, a beautiful contemplation of the Tarheel folk artist's kinetic sculptures. In Mountain Talk, his subjects have rewarded his respectfulness with remarkably un-self-conscious reflections for his camera.

"Mountain culture is surprisingly vigorous and surprisingly alive and will be until the current generation of 50-somethings dies out. And it is dying out," Hutcheson says.

"Psychologically, there's a fundamental difference in the way they look at the world and treat each other," he continues. "We wear masks and assume roles—which is not necessarily a bad thing, but mountain people are not capable of that."

Hutcheson has drunk so deeply from the Appalachian spring that he's continuing in this vein for his next project, The Last One, featuring Popcorn Sutton. "He's a living anachronism from the past who doesn't fit in with the modern world," Hutcheson says. "He's a dying breed and he sticks out living in a world his personality is ill-equipped to handle."

But rather than seeing mere pathos in the lives of Sutton and his neighbors, Hutcheson admires their old-fashioned, rawboned sense of reality. "Their presence in the world is incredibly physical, while we're a lot more ephemeral," Hutcheson says. "If Popcorn built a cabin, it would last for 200 years."

Hutcheson has maintained his relationship with Sutton in other ways. Recently, he accompanied Sutton to Racine, West Virginia where the older man wanted to visit Jesco White, the subject of the celebrated underground documentary Jesco, the Dancing Outlaw. Although Hutcheson recorded this unlikely meeting, he doesn't expect to use his footage of it, which would be the documentary equivalent of a Freddy v. Jason encounter.

And Hutcheson somewhat ruefully acknowledges being the author of a film called The Last Damn Liquor Run I'll Ever Make, for sale only at select stores in the vicinity of Maggie Valley, N.C., where its distributor—one Popcorn Sutton—is known to do business. "It's sold over a thousand copies. Probably 950 more people have seen it than any of my other films!"

For more on Neal Hutcheson's films about Tar Heel dialects, see www.talkingnc.com.

12 COMMENTS

The Video Neal Hutcheson made of "The Last Run" with Popcorn Sutton the Moonshiner, was one of the best films I have seen in years...found it to be intriguing and humorous...it's too bad someone doesn't make a movie of this man's life... people of the southern states may of ran into someone like him before, but the rest of the country would love to see the culture and life styles of someone so unforgettable...never seen a man so original and real as Popcorn Sutton...sure hope there is another film made of him...think I could sit and listen to this man all day...I know I have wore out the tape...what a treasure! Leona Burton Riverton Wyoming
by bychingranny 16 Jan 2007, 8:45pm Report this comment
Neal says he hopes to have another Popcorn movie coming out within a year, if all goes well. Stay tuned!
by David Fellerath, Indy Culture Editor 17 Jan 2007, 9:30am Report this comment
i would like to know where i can purchase the movie last run with popcorn sutton, i've heard a great complemints about it, can't find it anywhere. sure would love it if you could help in this matter. thanks harold brown. seminole, fl. 33777
by patchwork Hillsborough , pinellas,cty.fl. 30 Jan 2007, 2:37pm Report this comment
I thought I would add a little information here about the work with Popcorn. Initially, after getting to be friends with Popcorn over the course of making Mountain Talk, I wanted to make a documentary about him. He wanted me to make a tape for him to sell, so we struck a sort of bargain. I would make the tape he wanted and then have the footage for my documentary. The first result was called "This Is The Last Run of Likker I'll Ever Make," which is the tape (on VHS) that only Popcorn sells. His only request was that I make it as long as possible so folks get their money's worth. (Except that when he saw me filming some mountain fields out of his car, he told me, Don't put none of that *#@& in my video.) He is a remarkable salesperson and the tapes have sold well and gone far. From that material, plus a little other footage shot later, I have made a shorter and somewhat different documentary about Popcorn and his last batch called "The Last One." It has screened here and there, even in Berlin, and been appreciated, though it has not exactly been the toast of the festival circuit. I hope to make it available at some point. Since that hot summer of 2002 when Pop made his last batch, I have travelled extensively with him, sometimes filming and sometimes just having fun. There is no one better to travel with. I hope to complete another film on him one day. His health has not been great in the past couple of years, but he manages to keep on keepin' on. I have just finished making a DVD for him of "The Last Run of Likker," so he should have that for sale in a matter of weeks.
by Neal Hutcheson Raleigh 1 Feb 2007, 10:26am Report this comment
Marvin (Popcorn) Sutton has become something of a rascally icon of a disappearing way of life in an ever widening area centered roughly around Maggie Valley in western NC; and tempting as it may be to attach a Beverly Hillbillies likeness to him that would be a mistake. Popcorn is a genuine remnant of a many generations old branch of Americana that could almost be classed as an ethnic entity, unique in all the world to this particular spine of the Blue Ridge. A culture which in it's purest form is only about fifty miles wide by two hundred miles long. People who for whatever reasons retreated into the southern highlands until they could go no higher or more remote. It is also too easy to dismiss this people as being ignorant or backwards when we confront them with the academic achievements of the post industrial age "larger" society we've developed. And while it is true that two hundred years of isolation has unavoidably produced certain "genetic" peculiarities, there is a level of instinctual wisdom and natural understanding in some that defies the outsiders casual interest. If God were to turn off all the electricity and gasoline pumps tomorrow the great majority of them would sit cross legged on a stump or wobbly front porch and watch with credulous interest as the rest of us killed each other and slowly starved. Popcorn is true to himself, and to a lesser degree those whom he likes. Lifes paradigms for him are slightly different from those we accept and practice, but the surprising fact is that it is US who are guilty of the paradigm shifts, not him. He is descended from a line of men who, like wolverines, will react politely to a pat on the back, but can attack vigorously if kicked, don't be fooled, transgressions were seldom forgiven and never forgotten in the rock hard life of his line. He is a lovable part of the regional color, and as such is afforded a certain "latitude" so long as he sort of "keeps his head down"! But the unfortunate detonation of his "apparatus" this week will be a bit hard to overlook, and although most every officer who eventually showed up to inspect the aftermath did so with a grin, them "dad-burned" federals don't have much sense of humor. "A man can't even make a decent jar a likker no more on account of em"! I know Popcorn very well, I'm a fairly close relative, but it won't be me who discloses any more about him than he himself does, it's his image, he's earned it, and for the most part it's pretty genuine. In a country where it's now life threatening to walk in the ghettos of our cities, where the "pop" drugs are now more dangerous than heroine, where warped fanatics kill us by the thousands, where our airwaves are flooded with outright dirt, and our kids play video games more violent than horror movies, it's almost refreshing that we have a few guys like Popcorn around.
by gannamede , E Tn 26 Apr 2007, 2:17am Report this comment
Well Hello Uncle Popcorn! Yes he is my Uncle! He was married to my Aunt Margaret! In the Messer family! I want to see the interview. Is it the same one that was on TV? I wish I can get a copy of the TV interview/Special but can't remember what it was called?
by Moondancer , NJ 8 Jul 2007, 8:54pm Report this comment
I would like to know where to get a dvd via internet or mail titled "the last damn likker run". I saw this years ago and loved it, would like to own a copy. Also does Neal Hutcheson have a web page? Thanks for any feedback
by sandrantn , Tennessee 10 Aug 2007, 4:48pm Report this comment
Yes! I have a web address: http://www.suckerpunchpictures.com The video is available; there are some previews and broadcast times too. Thanks for your interest. N
by Neal Hutcheson Raleigh 18 Nov 2008, 10:37am Report this comment
I ordered "The Last One" thinking it wasPopcorn's original version that he own. I would like to get that version...how do I find popcorn and order it? Thanks.
by rt , colorado 12 Jan 2009, 10:24pm Report this comment
The original film I made for Popcorn to sell, "This is the Last Dam Run of Likker I'll Ever Make," is only available from him, for $35: Popcorn Sutton/PO Box 38/Parrottsville,TN/27843 I think it might be temporarily unavailable, or you may need to make the check out to Pam Sutton. Yesterday Popcorn was sentenced to 18 months in prison for distillation and related charges. (He has thirty days to report) The prosecution used a twenty year-old video clip of Popcorn capping a still to argue that he would be physically fit enough to resume moonshining if let out on probation/house-arrest. In reality it is 2009 and he is sick and weak. House arrest and a wrist-monitor has kept Popcorn in check for the past ten months and could continue to do so as long as the court felt necessary. The prosecution's insistence on prison-time was petty, vindictive and mean. -Neal
by Neal Hutcheson Raleigh 27 Jan 2009, 1:17pm Report this comment
The photograph of Popcorn with his truck on his revised editions of his book was taken by me. I photographed him in my studio and with his truck.
by flashbud (Froglevelphoto@hotmail.com) , Waynesville nc 19 Mar 2009, 11:01pm Report this comment
For those who haven't heard, Popcorn Sutton passed away Monday. His death was ruled a suicide. He was 62 years old. http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009903200326
by David Fellerath, Indy Culture Editor 20 Mar 2009, 10:09am Report this comment
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