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Someone just fired up one of those things (the high-powered push-around kind that Valentine's talking about here) across the street from my apartment, and thus I'd like to amend my earlier comment. You, sir, are an unmitigated asshole to even own one of those, let alone boast about it in print.

I have a next door neighbor with two, tethered, 20 + pound dogs in their backyard; one of which is very aggressive. I am so glad that my neighbor will be required to build an enclosure for the dogs or fence-in the yard. The aggressive dog has gotten loose on at least two occasions, so I know that tethering, for that animal, is ineffective and unreliable; which makes me very uncomfortable on my own property. I don't want my neighbor to pay my medical expenses if I am ever bitten...I don't want to be bitten in the first place!!!!

Read the article,Seems a bit out there but! possible I suppose.Funny thing though since I worked the de-con of the plant and was on the first three man crew to enter the reactor room.That was over 30 years ago and I have not heard of one incidence of cancer in any of my fellow workers .NOT to say there has not been any but a direct result from our many entries? I can tell you I have made more entries than any other worker during that early time period.Been involved in numerous incidents, yet I'm still pretty healthy.We did make one trip to the Hershey Med center for unknown ordors coming thru our particulate mask other than that.It was relatively calm.Most Hp's I knew were always on the outside of such entries..I never made an entry with one beside me. REL.

rjgreen -- good questions. I did correspond with a couple of Alcoa's local supporters and looked at what they wrote to FERC; I didn't pursue the Riverkeeper's charges with environmental officials past the fact that they did, indeed, sign off on the 401 permit. I expect to follow this story when it returns to the legislature and when the hearing on the stayed permit is conducted. For this article, I wanted to keep the focus on the main issue, which is -- to me -- whether Alcoa's license constitutes a property right or, having expired, should be recaptured and the profits from it used under local auspices. On the pollution issue, I think Gene Ellis, Alcoa's representative, was correct when he said that whether Alcoa polluted Badin Lake or not (and he says it didn't) is essentially irrelevant to the licensing question, though it's obviously relevant to how people in Stanly County may view the company. I think the Riverkeeper is correct as well when he says that the amount of testing done in the lake so far is insufficient to prove Alcoa's "legacy" one way or the other. On the question of local support, the municipal and High Rock Lake officials who signed on with Alcoa cut good deals for their own communities, presumably, but what's good for a couple of towns in the region does not necessarily equate to the good of the region as a whole. I might have said in the article that the Yadkin Trust, as proposed, would probably give Alcoa's supporters (Badin, Albemarle, High Rock Lake, etc.) everything they negotiated for with Alcoa. On reflection, I think the reason I didn't is that the details of the Trust are still TBD and in play in the legislature.

Bob - Curious about whether or not you spoke with any of the folks in the community who support Alcoa and believe it deserves a new license: the Mayor of Albemarle, the Mayor of Badin, the local homeowners groups around the lakes, the environmental interest groups who participated in the relicensing process, or any of the legislators who voted against the takeover legislation that was defeated at the General Assembly.

Also, I would be curious to hear what the state environmental officials would say about the Riverkeeper's claims. The state regulates water quality and things like that, and to the best of my knowledge, Alcoa has fully complied with all state and federal regulations.

The schools need to adopt a MENTOR program. The bill is weak on implementation, and with their limited resources, the schools will likely give it more lip service than action.

Studies show that when it comes to these things, students are much more influenced by their peers than adults. My son, a bright kid with a great sense of humor, and Asperger's Syndrome, has been completely isolated - past the point of breakdown. He will suffer consequences for the rest of his life.

My friend has a son who has been diagnosed with mental health issues. To date, his doctors have yet to find the right combination of medications to get his illness under control. The Guilford County school system doesn't seem to recognize mental illness as a disability (or even an illness, and some students seem to enjoy "pushing his button" and watching the meltdown that almost always occurs. Will this law protect students like the one I've described?

Don't worry...after the last 8 years of secret CIA jails and kidnap flights out of Smithfield by aero contractors... They probably already had their own folder on you!

There is a type of smugness about titular "liberals" that is wearing to say the least. A man who's done little more than teach our young, as honorable as that may be, is hardly qualified to direct public policy involving an entity that has contributed billions of dollars and generations of recreational respite to an area that would have otherwise languished in semi poverty except for it's presence. One should also keep in mind that the dollar figures thrown about when evaluating Alcoa's direct and indirect investments and contributions are intentionally kept in literal numbers instead of the time/inflation adjusted amounts that would now probably be in the "trillions" range. I have no arguments with the professor nor any of his allies in wanting to do what's best for the environment, we all want that, even at the cost of future (and some present) economic benefits. But for the sake of a balanced dialogue other voices must be given the podium in defense of the almost inestimable good Alcoa has meant in real and tangible terms for the area, and not couched in eco/speak or pseudo academic BS by some who's families would not have struggled along as tobacco farmers or woodcutters had it not have been for the company's presence. Alcoa has been one of the foremost companies in the world in it's public policies and business practices and has been inarguably valuable to not only the region but the entire nation in helping us build a national leadership position that until recently was a model for the entire world, not to mention the fact that it was a very large contributor to the efforts of the free world in winning a devastating war. I will support any effort that works to improve or protect the quality of life we and our parents have labored to procure for ourselves, but we must not be so obviously anti business that future investors will pass us by in justified wariness. The adversarial tone of these negotiations smack of the labor skirmishes that have nearly destroyed our auto (and other)industries instead of the mutually respectful dialogue between honorable positions at variance with each other. I hereby go on record as a grateful beneficiary of the company that has done more hands down to develop the area than all the protesters and intellectuals combined by a factor of geometric proportions. By all means let's do what is best for all involved using all the best information presently at our disposal to reach an honorable and just decision, and stop this one sided thinly veiled vilification of big business that has already been one of the largest factors in our relegation of world manufacturing leadership. If this brief discourse appears to make me (and others) "pro business" or for that matter "pro anything" then it's being looked at with the eyes of debate, and I disdain debate as the sophomoric academic tool it is, which looks not for justice, only victory. I am pro North Carolina, my roots are deeply embedded in it's mountains and the blood of my family is mingled forever in it's soils. I only say let's be fair to all involved, not just the narrow interests of the few.

I like the way Jeff S., thinks.

Take back the river, give them what they are contractually obligated to dollar-wise, and pay for it by suing them for the pollution they have caused. Take the leftover money from the suit (and there should be PLENTY) and put it in a trust for the inevitable cleanup projects.

James -- Thanks! The recapture clause is supposed to allow competitors to make their case that they'd do more for the public interest than the licensee (Alcoa) if they were in charge of hydropower generation. The reality, though, is that the licensee has a big advantage in the process. In this case, Alcoa is on the ground, owns land it can give away (as well as its profits, if it wanted to share them), and it started negotiations with local groups about seven years ago. The town of Badin, for example, is an Alcoa supporter. It signed Alcoa's application after the company contributed $250,000 to a downtown development study. Meanwhile, Stanly County stayed in talks with Alcoa for a long time before deciding they weren't getting enough and they went to the State for help.

The process reminds me of a typical rezoning case, where the developer "meets with the neighbors" and listens and talks but never changes his plans -- and maybe the neighbors don't get it that they're being stonewalled until it's too late to organize. Not to say Alcoa's stonewalling, but conceptually a State-run authority should by definition be able to do more for the public interest than a corporation that sends its profits around the world.

wes AR4TM - yep, we just caught and corrected that online about 20 min ago. apologies that it was incorrect in print.

Hey G, The URL for Holly Raleigh Xmas is incorrect. Try: www.hollyraleighchristmas.org

Gosh, I should learn to pay attention better. I just reread the article and found the points I was looking for in the "recapture" discussion.

Great story, Bob.

Did you come across any discussion about the technical terms of the contract? It seems I read that the contract was explicitly crafted for the option of non-renewability without having to show cause. That is, it was designed to expire without any presumption of being renewed.

tsjetski1200, I would agree to a point, but you have to scale your behavior according to who you're dealing with. If the criminals can just make it so you're mean to everyone then they've won. If you're dealing with crazed drug addicts and gang bangers, then you certainly have to project a degree of toughness. But "bully" tactics don't fly with white collar citizens and students. We're not the enemy in this town and we resent it when we're treated like common thugs after being pulled for some minor traffic offense like a burnt out light, not coming to a full and complete stop, or being caught in a speed trap at the bottom of a hill where you'd have to ride your brakes the whole way down to stay under 35... We wonder why you're not out there chasing after the real criminals that there's a virtually never-ending supply of in this town instead of wasting your time pursuing victim-less crimes no civilian cares about and acting as armed tax collectors for the city. It seems the motto of the modern day police for is no longer "serve and protect" but "ticket and harass." And sorry to all of the "good cops" out there doing their jobs and going after the real bad guys. I thank you all for your tremendous service. But it's like the old saying goes, 5% of the cops do 95% of the work...

Thank you for exposing this issue, Indy Weekly.

While the article focused on the environmental problems with this prison for animals destined for UNC's vivisection laboratories, the public should know what happens behind the walls of these laboratories in the name of "science."

Here are some links to let the light shine in...

Two investigations, visually documenting cruelty and abuse:
- http://www.peta.org/feat/unc/
- http://www.peta.org/feat/unc/unc2-update.html
- http://www.stopanimaltests.com/f-worstlabs_09.asp

Inspection reports provided by UNC to the USDA
- http://www.serat-nc.org/publicrecords.htm
- http://www.all-creatures.org/saen/nc/res-fr-nc-unc.html

Information on UNC's vivisection experiments on nonhuman primates:
- http://www.primatelabs.com/labsearch.php?cat= &name=University +of +North +Carolina +Chapel +Hill

Your situation is echoed across the country. We need to break out of the circle law enforcement and local government is making run in. We only bump into ourselves. This is a problem we can only control when we understand that we invented the police, we pay the police, so we call the shots. Start telling every political candidate running for any and every office that they must support a CRB with power, and authority, and with significant, decision making ability that sticks. Otherwise, we are just getting a meaningless, money-wasting dismissal from the local government and laughter from the police departments.

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I also listened to Rusted Root ... But it was in my car, and I was alone. Does that count?