12% is nowhere near "general." What would make NC State less bigoted? Let me guess -- offering no-meeting classes in African-American studies, offered to members of various athletic teams?
If that is your criteria, so be it.
Don't read the bible? Are you serious?
Mr Jennings, I know more about your holy book than the overwhelming majority of your followers. Of course, I've also read the religious text and practices of countless other religions as well. That, my good Reverend, is precisely why I'm not religious. The same is true for every atheist I have ever met.
As for respect. Well, I'll respect your right to believe what you want. I will not, pretend I don't think you're a fool and will not abide proselytizing. Of course, I'm not running for public office either. I don't have it in me to pretend to be religious like so many of our politicians.
Here's a thought. If we wiped the slate clean today, how many people do you think your religious text would convert? How many people would make it through Genesis before throwing it in the trash? How many of those would be left after Leviticus? Would there be any? Aside from the scholars or self-ordained priests?
Amen Thad! Nice research on the history of this terrible policy put in place by the NCAA. I am struggling to stay engaged with the games as I get older due to excessive TO's. Problem is that money drives everything and they will never roll it back until the game has been ruined. I am surprised that coaches haven't raised the roof on this?!
I think mitch easter is a little overrated. I have the Huguenots album he recorded, and it's really nothing to write home about (not the songwriting or performance I'm referring to).
I am hearing a lot of accusations about a rush to judgment and that UNC deserves to be given a chance before we make up our minds. Where did they give her a chance rather than go after her without having fully investigated the matter? Further, how is it a violation to stand up for one's self? If the truth hurts then maybe they need to fix themselves.
I also find it doubtful that this woman would persist if the rapist were not guilty. Crystal Mangum was the exception; in most cases a rape victim will not look to bring attention to their matter. Furthermore, there is more than one woman charging them with blaming the victim instead of putting yet another stain on the school.
UNC cannot seem to go a few months without another scandal involving the mishandling of students, or violations of the law. I do not know all of the facts yet, partly because UNC tried to stifle the matter; but what I do know is that they seem to lack credibility where it comes to properly handling these matters. I would guess that most of the victim-bashers on this board are letting some dumb allegiance to a sports team or to their Alma Mater cloud their vision.
You leftists continue to not see the big picture here.
A good part of the reason you got walloped at the polls last November was the abysmal 'leadership' of Bev Perdue. Sadly, rather than setting up a commission to report back to the new governor/general assembly in 2013 on what could be done with Dix, she rammed this deal though as she was exiting stage left. Regardless of how good or bad anyone might view the particulars of the deal, it looks really, really bad.
Hence, the result to readdress the deal is predictable by even the most casual observer of how the word works. And, no, it does not subtract credibility from the state to do this, it enhances credibility and transparency.
As long as you leftists stay in your myopic world -- screaming how bad other people are and attributing nothing but malice to them -- the longer you will be out of power. Well, come to think of it, stick with your mindset and keep up what you are doing.
You do realize that O'Rear is black, right? Kind of complicates your whole "white men are evil" meme you liberals have going on...
"Who would make up a story like that?"
What a dishonest statement. I support all efforts to protect people who have suffered abuse and punish those who committed such offenses, but to pretend to be ignorant of and pretend to have no knowledge of any false claims in such circumstances makes one doubt her story. People lie all the time. They lie about these exact things. That is why there is a court and not a an automatic guilty verdict.
This author and Ms. Gambill respond to all legitimate questions designed to determine her credibility as though it were some masochistic desire to punish women and victims of sexual assault. Some examination of credibility is essential to the finding of the truth and therefore justice. It is not always pleasant, but it is a fact of life. A false accusation could destroy a life as much as being the victim of assault. THAT is why establishing credibility should not be equated with "victim blaming".
This author would have had the Duke Lacrosse team thrown in jail because any attempt to establish the truth would have been "mean" and "victim blaming".
One more thing, just because someone doesn't believe you, doesnt mean you are being mistreated by them. It might just mean you lack credibility!
Damon Circosta at the A.J. Fletcher Foundation has a good piece up today on the Dix issue, making the point that whether Dix is turned into a park or not has nothing to do with the question of whether the state will ever live up to its responsibilities for funding mental health programs: http://ajf.org/dix-park-can-be-a-win-win/
My friends in the Wake mental health community fought to keep Dix Hospital open -- and it was a righteous fight, but one that was lost a decade ago. They therefore resent seeing the land turned into a park while mental health continues to be neglected by state leaders. I understand the resentment, but blocking the park will do nothing to advance the mental health cause. Dix Hospital is closed, and it isn't going to be reopened.
As for the Republicans who've tried to shroud the Dix issue in a tissue of lies about this issue, Sen. Josh Stein, D-Wake, exposed them on the Senate floor Tuesday. The Republicans, Stein said, want us to focus on $1 million a year or less that Raleigh might put into mental health programs via the Dix lease ... only weeks after these same Republicans turned down more than $1 billion a year from the federal government for mental health -- billion, as Stein said, with a "b" -- as part of the Medicaid expansion program.
@Max Dickstein, if you would like to leave a civil comment, you are welcome to.
@Christopher M. Nance, if you would like to leave a civil comment, you are welcome to.
This article seems mistimed, falling as it does in the limbo between "Holden Thorp Asks Honor Court to Suspend Proceedings Against Gambill," and the findings of the investigators and external review boards. It is crafted in support of Landen Gambill, but I simply do not understand how anyone can pretend to know what happened between Gambill and her ex. Obviously, Honor Court is an absurd venue for serious criminal accusations. But months had elapsed by the time Gambill reported the alleged rape. Isn't it hard to picture a DA enthusiastic about going forward with that case? No, I do not want rape victims to be re-traumatized; and yes, the Honor Court questioning does come off as clumsy and insensitive -- but mild in comparison to what Gambill could have expected in a court of law. There are many things we need to make better, but the mission of the courts is not unconditional support and validation for alleged victims. (That's what therapy is for.)
Irresponsible reporting has spawned hundreds of headlines echoing Gambill's characterization of herself as a victim, her ex as a rapist, and UNC as covertly involved in a shameful attempt to silence her. Do we know if ANY of that is true? Sure, okay, maybe all of it is. Rapists do get away with it sometimes. But why not pause to reflect on the possibility that the ex is just some guy who made some mistakes, did his best to correct them, and -- having been found not guilty of rape -- would like to get on with his life without being called a rapist every time he turns around? That also seems plausible. Anyone who doesn't get how uncomfortable his life must be just isn't thinking.
(And BTW, I find the line suggesting that the ex's Honor Court charges might be construed as "another form of verbal harassment" of Gambill to be laughable. My understanding is that a no-contact order prevents him from communicating with her in any other way.)
Yes, UNC has made mistakes. (If the ex is ever revealed to be a football player majoring in African American Studies, Lord help us.) But if somebody in the administration was really dumb enough to open the university to charges of retaliation, against a person with no apparent fear of publicity... that was really, really dumb.
I wonder what would have happened if the Duke Lacrosse accused students had been handed over to an Honor Court. Oddly, it may have worked out better in the end since the adults in charge there fumbled it pretty badly.
BTW, the board that found her ex not guilty was composed of 3 women and 2 men and it was a 5-0 vote after 20 hours of hearings.
This is yet another fake rape controversy like the Duke Lacrosse Case where feminists and their enablers in a biased media complex distort the truth and willingly accept any story so no matter how false so long as it supports the narrative they want to promote. Gambill was not raped and everyone at Carolina following this knows she wasn't. She was upset with her ex and wanted him off campus so she concocted her story. She did not contact the police because she wasn't raped and went to the Honor Council because it's standards of evidence are lower and she thought she would have a sympathetic hearing since UNC administrators, professors, and students are generally a liberal feminist bunch, and would be able to exact revenge. The scam she was trying to pull was even to crazy for them which is why they didn't buy it. Too bad the Indy couldn't bother report the facts or use logic
It's clearly time for Holden Thorp to be removed from office. Why UNC continues to allow this quasi-judiciary kangaroo court and Thorp's complete ineptitude is beyond me. UNC is a fine school and deserves so much better than this ... as it stands it's shooting itself in the foot.
Come on Will, did you do an exit poll to see why they voted for this guy? How many people that voted for him actually read/saw anything about his past comments? It isn't like the guy was running on a platform of bigotry and hate and that is what the 12% we're casting their ballot in support of.
I haven't been in Raleigh in several years, is this what passes for journalism at The Indy these days or is this really about driving page views? I'm less upset that some racist asshole actually had the audacity to think he could run for SBP and more concerned that this shoddy journalism is being attached to my alma mater.
He got 12% of the vote. And I agree, your headline smacks of pseudo-intelligentsia elitism.
So who is ultimately responsible for failing to address these abuses? The article quotes "The Instrument" as saying,"The Chancellor remains solely responsible for all matters of student discipline." It would appear that Holden Thorp has failed the university community and the citizens of NC yet again, as he has so often, in so many crucial areas, during his tenure. It's time for Holden and his boss(es) to be held accountable. Perhaps this is where the buck will finally stop.
Turn out the lights and say goodnight. Everyone now knows that NC lawmakers are liars! No one wants to do business with those who backtrack on promises. Gov. "McCrock-ery" needs to be sued. A contract is a contract, period. The GOP legislators cannot overturn things by fiat. It is illegal.
The right-wing Republicans are proving just how spiteful they are and why it took them 100 years to take charge of the state house.
Phil Berger, Paul Coble, Bob Rucho, Joe Bryan and Tom Apodaca are mice, studying to be King Rats. Now say-- Cheese!
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